Breaking The Seals (Part 3 of 4)

But you also simultaneously feel that you are the same. It is a simultaneous occurrence, a simultaneous experience, not one at the expense of another, but both simultaneously. Uh-huh. Oh, that was interesting. This is the combination of the product of the hive mind and the individual identity. Ah. You feel that you are you, and you feel that you are the same as them. Right, yeah, very definitely. Yes. Very definitely. Yes. This should give you some stronger clue as to how we experience our communication with all of you. Oh. That same sense, huh? Yes. Very good. I am me. I am you. Yeah. We are us. We are you. Very blending. Yes. It's a real blending. Yes. That I felt with you. And also a strong delineation. Mm-hmm. Yeah. At the same time. Same time. Yeah. I had a, what about the father, Vashar father, identification? Are you a mirror, the future mirror as the father with them? I am one such reflection to some degree. Yes. Although the term father may be a little bit misleading. However, again, I am one such reflection. for some of the hybrid children to some degree. Yes. Okay. Also, Lee Bailey, my newest contact that's been writing with me. Yes. Is he an offshoot Syrian? No comment at this time. Okay. Anything else? How do the children identify? identify their mothers. Oh, please. I mean, it's this... Must you ask? Well, it was, it was, no, I guess not. It was just the... How do you know your own hand? Well, it just seems that there are only percentages and everything. When you're getting into that... Do you not understand that they have acute, vibrational senses? Yeah. That they simply know and are telepathic? Okay. Yes. Does this make sense? Right, yeah. I'm not telepathic with them. Yes. Okay, that's it for me. Thank you. You and then you. Number two, do you know who you are? All right. Number three, do you know who you are? All right. Number one, good day. Good day, Bashar. Thank you. I have a few questions to ask. Yes. For your help, for my physical body, if I may. We will see what we can do. Proceed. Thank you. I have been dealing with right shoulder pain. Right shoulder pain. Where I have also gone to Western medicine and... physical therapy. Yes. And I've gone all through that. However, I still do not have 100% mobility. All right. You may, if you wish, to some degree, discuss this with the channel after this communication. There are, from time to time, individuals that have become associated with the channel that you can dialogue with to see if they may be individuals that you feel may be able to help you. You are under no obligation to do this. in that certain resources are immediately available in connection with the channel. You may wish to see if you want to take advantage of them.

this with the channel after this communication. There are, from time to time, individuals that have become associated with the channel that you can dialogue with to see if they may be individuals that you feel may be able to help you. You are under no obligation to do this. in that certain resources are immediately available in connection with the channel. You may wish to see if you want to take advantage of them. Most definitely. All right. Would that also apply to right hip pain? Yes. Okay. Also, do you have any suggestions for how we humans can deal with osteoporosis as to change that? To do other alternatives or methods to get more bone density yes and again you can refer to the same source that we have already been discussing and you can inquire about this particular individual after these transmissions inquire this of the channel okay terrific anything else no thank you oh right thank you number two hi fashar and are you good day a couple things I have had a couple of interesting trips to the dentist recently that I wanted to talk to you about. How so interesting? Well, I was having my, I'm having my mercury amalgam fillings replaced. Oh, all right. And I forget, I don't know. Something better, something less toxic. Oh, all right. So anyway, the last time I went, or I've been twice, and the first time we did the right side and the upper one on the top and then one on the bottom. And the upper one was really easy. and then the one on the bottom, the anesthetic wouldn't take. I didn't take well enough and it was really, really painful and I had a lot of emotion come up. I see. During this. And then we couldn't finish because he tried to put more anesthetic and it just didn't work. What emotions came up during this particular pressure episode? Well, I was at the time had been processing or integrating a particular past life. Such as? A past life that I'd had with John in which you know, the real dramatic one that we talked about. Yes, all right. I lost my child. All right. And so, as I was driving home, I hit a nerve. I hit a big nerve. And as I was, I felt like I was being tortured, basically. I wanted to run out of the dentist. Yes. Basically, that's how I felt was torture. All right. Well, again, it hit a nerve. Yeah. That's the point. That's the key. Right. So, in the meantime, I did definitely integrate that past life. Shortly there after. All right. in terms of just emotionally healing. All right. And then I went back a couple days ago to work on the left side. Yes. Again, the top teeth were really easy or one or two or whatever it was. And then the bottom, the same exact thing happened.

hit a nerve. Yeah. That's the point. That's the key. Right. So, in the meantime, I did definitely integrate that past life. Shortly there after. All right. in terms of just emotionally healing. All right. And then I went back a couple days ago to work on the left side. Yes. Again, the top teeth were really easy or one or two or whatever it was. And then the bottom, the same exact thing happened. You may also have simply structured some of your neurological anatomy in this fashion. Right. Meaning... Meaning to allow it to be, in that sense, more difficult for anesthetization to take place in the local. to take place in the lower jaw. Right. So that, in some senses, you would be forced to face certain things. Well, that's what I was wondering. I just felt like, you know, symbolically what was going on here. And I haven't... With the left side... That is where you have allowed yourself to place sensitive issues. In those teeth, in those particular teeth, or in my jaw. In the jaw. Clench, clench, clench, clench, clench. Uh-huh. You understand? Build up other unresolved issues. Clench, clench, clench, clench, clench. clench, clench. Yeah. So... Relax the jaw. Uh-huh. The more you can learn to relax the jaw. The more you can learn to relax the jaw. And have work done specifically manipulating those areas to allow them more muscular and neurological relaxation, the more responsive they will be in this context. Okay. Well, is there any information you can give me in terms of specifically, like the left side? like the left side, what that might be, because I haven't figured... Well, again, it may simply have to do with the idea of integration, and what it is that you process and or store in the hemispheres of your brain, but you will allow both sides to be dealt with so that there can ultimately be balanced. So you have split it up into both sides, so that you will know that when you have dealt with both sides, you have dealt with the whole issue. Otherwise, you would always be wondering. Is there anything left? No, now it's right. So... Um... Did you understand that? You have taken certain issues and you have split them up into sensitive areas on both sides of your body so that you will know that when you have dealt with the same idea on both sides of your bodies, you will have dealt with the whole issue. Oh, okay. Does that make sense to you? Yes. Otherwise, if it was only on one side and not the other, you would always be wondering if you had finished dealing with the issue. I see. You would not have a balance and a sense of completion. Oh, I see. Uh-huh. So does it mean that once I have completed this particular issue or whatever it is that I'll be able to have my teeth finished?

okay. Does that make sense to you? Yes. Otherwise, if it was only on one side and not the other, you would always be wondering if you had finished dealing with the issue. I see. You would not have a balance and a sense of completion. Oh, I see. Uh-huh. So does it mean that once I have completed this particular issue or whatever it is that I'll be able to have my teeth finished? Perhaps, although there might be other issues lying under the surface as well. We will see. But the idea is that if you will, take the suggestion, of course, of doing anything that will help you meditatively, emotionally integrate any issue whatsoever, but also actually have some work done, massage, therapeutic work done in your jaw and neck. musculature and neurological area. It can be of aid and assistance in helping you learn how to process these things in a different way and bring them out in a different pace without it necessarily having to be triggered in such an immediately and pointedly painful way. Right. Well, that's basically, I mean, I have been doing a lot of, I guess, work or healing with, you know, different people helping me in terms of doing energetic. Yeah. Have they actually physically started massaging your jaw and neck area? No. Thank you. So that's the next thing. Right. Okay, and then one other thing. Yes. I just want, I had a dream last night that I thought I would run by you because... Oh, alright. As fast as you were... I was really excited about it when I woke up. Yes. Why? What is it? Well, the most important things in the dream were... I was at work and a friend of mine who I had a falling out with several years ago. Falling out. Yeah. basically, you know, we're not in touch anymore. Oh, alright. Physiologically. Yeah, right. And we've, oh, I've had a lot of contact with her in dreams and... All right, yes, and? Well, in this, recently I mailed her a letter, just telling her that I loved her and that I would always love her. Physically. Physically, I mailed her a letter. Yeah, like probably a few weeks ago or a lot ago. And so this is the first time I have dreamt about her since then. All right, and... Well, she showed up, I was at work, and she showed up, and I looked up, and there she wasn't... I was just... really, really, really, incredibly happy to see her, as was she to see me. All right. And then shortly thereafter, she was saying she was researching some sort of dolphins or whales or something. And I said, oh, I have one. I pulled up my shirt on the shirt underneath. I had, like, a dolphin slash whale type, slash seal kind of mammal. It wasn't exactly a dolphin. It was something of the sword.

just... really, really, really, incredibly happy to see her, as was she to see me. All right. And then shortly thereafter, she was saying she was researching some sort of dolphins or whales or something. And I said, oh, I have one. I pulled up my shirt on the shirt underneath. I had, like, a dolphin slash whale type, slash seal kind of mammal. It wasn't exactly a dolphin. It was something of the sword. And it just proceeded to come alive out of the shirt. It just jumped out. Oh, all right. And it was... Jumping for George. Yeah, I was completely. Completely ecstatic. And then it said it needed water. Yes. And so I went and I took it and I put it in this bathtub and was running the water. Yes. And it was just, I was just really excited. I mean, and I woke up just incredibly, incredibly excited. Well, thank you. Shortly thereafter, she, this mammal turned into a woman. Yes. And I was conversing with this woman and I was, again, really excited to have made her acquaintance. Yes. Her name was Susanna. Yes. And she was, I remember what she looked like. I just remember going, who, what, who, I was just like, who are you? What's going on? What's going on? What's going on? And then she said, well, and she said, well, let's see, you know, well, I've been your mother before. And we were kind of going into, like, what past lives we'd had together. Oh, what? And that's all I remember, but I was, I was curious if you could expand a little bit more who the Susanna was. Oh. Mm-hmm. That's who it is. Oh. Yes. Oh, Susanna. Oh, Susanna. Don't you cry for me. That's who it is. You think I'm being facetious. No, I don't think you're being facetious at all, which is why I'm confused. Good. Allow yourself to understand the context of your human song of O. Susanna, and you will begin to understand some of the reason why this entity, this guide, and this spirit and this non-physical friend is, willing to be of some assistance to help you lighten things up to jump for joy and don't you cry for me and allow yourself to process that idea okay so sing oh Susanna not necessarily now right all right all right does that help you yes thank you thank you thank you number three Hi, Ashar. And are you good day? I have three things I would like to explore with you. Number three has three things. All right. Three times three. Yes. The first one is, I don't know when the hybrid program began. Does my mother have hybrid children? Yes. How many? 17. Thank you. She will be delighted. Thank you. She will be delighted. Will she not be lighted? She will be lighted. Don't want to take the light away. Right.

good day? I have three things I would like to explore with you. Number three has three things. All right. Three times three. Yes. The first one is, I don't know when the hybrid program began. Does my mother have hybrid children? Yes. How many? 17. Thank you. She will be delighted. Thank you. She will be delighted. Will she not be lighted? She will be lighted. Don't want to take the light away. Right. And I wanted to ask you about what happened the other night. I have had no interactions that I remember at all, no paralysis field experiences. But I woke up in the middle of this dead sleep and I looked at my clock and I saw a gray there. Yes. But it was a small face. It was almost like a photograph. Understood. Size. And I, with perfect equanimity, just laid back down and went back to sleep and thought, well, that's very interesting, you know? Yes. Was that an actual interaction? Yes. It was. But you are seeing in the different dimension where different dimensions will sometimes cause distortions in your perceptions regarding size and scale. Well, the only other time I've seen one was when I saw one within that electrical vortex, and he was the same thing. It was very, very small for a gray. This is common as a perception from one dimension to another to see the idea of scale discrepancies, because you have a certain interpretation. interpretation about what space-time are all about, and space-time interpretations that do not correlate with your understanding will often cause certain kinds of scale discrepancies in your perceptions. Now, are they able to do interactions without the paralysis field, or did they subdue me sufficiently that I didn't feel it? I can't, it's so strong and unmistakable when it happens. Yes. I can't imagine an interaction without it. There are, in a sense, a variety of techniques, some of them more or less, in a less, involving what you would call the interdimensional shift field that creates the paralysis, but in this case, in a sense, they simply gave you a suggestion and you followed it. And that was, go to sleep. I followed it very well. I've never slept like that in my life. You are a good listener. Yeah, okay. The other area wanted to explore was I wanted a little update on Jonathan. What I've done is I got a very strong intuition, finally, to take them off all medication. All right. And? And he, I feel better about him. I think he has better color. I feel better about his liver. Yes. What is interesting to me, and I'm kind of excited about, is that he has broken out in blisters blisters again. All right. Now, one of the things that we had discussed is he was on a medication for herpes, a higher form of herpes. Yes. And getting off that medication, he's broken out again. Yes.

he, I feel better about him. I think he has better color. I feel better about his liver. Yes. What is interesting to me, and I'm kind of excited about, is that he has broken out in blisters blisters again. All right. Now, one of the things that we had discussed is he was on a medication for herpes, a higher form of herpes. Yes. And getting off that medication, he's broken out again. Yes. You can treat this homeopathically if you wish. if you wish. Yeah, my question was, am I going the right direction? You can treat this homeopathically if you wish. Okay. It can be resolved this way. You had mentioned once before the thieves oil. Would that be appropriate again? To some degree, but in this context, consult what you believe to be an extremely experienced homeopathic practitioner who will understand what is necessary for this particular expression and condition. Okay. Thank you. must rise to the surface first before it can be dealt with and truly cleansed from the system. When you use some of the medications that exist on your planet, these things are only suppressed, and when it is stopped being utilized, will always then come back to the surface because they are not truly cleansed from the system. The homeopathic, vibrational identification, resonance techniques can, in many cases, cause, or allow for true cleansing. Seek this out. This can be of great assistance at this time. Okay, thank you. And lastly, I wanted to ask you about me. What about you? Well, last week after being with you on the Friday night, I went home and invariably when I do this, I get a very powerful reaction, so I'm very careful about it, but I called upon you and Saibaba, and I asked for some real assistance in getting kicked in the butt, basically. And? I got it. All right. I got it. when you sit down? You know what? I can't sit down. It hurts so much. All right. This is really interesting. Now, for the first couple of days after that, I had the most powerful, amazing, wondrous energies flowing through me. Yes. I was working on my novel. I couldn't think of, I mean, I couldn't do enough every day. I'm so excited. And now? Now I can't move. Literally. That does not mean that they have gone away. Watch your definitions. This is the critical time to pay attention that you are not defining a change as ultimately a negative thing. They are simply rearranging themselves so that you can experience them in a different way. You are going through a transition with this, treat it as part of the path, not an interruption in the path. Watch your definitions now more than ever. Or we'll kick you again. Harder, much harder, because we actually didn't kick you as hard as you actually asked to kick so we have a little kick left. So watch your definitions.

are simply rearranging themselves so that you can experience them in a different way. You are going through a transition with this, treat it as part of the path, not an interruption in the path. Watch your definitions now more than ever. Or we'll kick you again. Harder, much harder, because we actually didn't kick you as hard as you actually asked to kick so we have a little kick left. So watch your definitions. Or it will be actually you that will be kicking yourself. Do you understand? Right. So that was actually my definition. So that was what was going on because I... Things will change. Change is the only constant. Let it change. Accept the change. Go with the change. Find out what the change is by giving it a positive reason for having occurred so that by having given it a positive meaning you will be capable of of extracting a positive understanding from it. For if you don't give it a positive meaning, you are incapable of having a positive understanding of how it can be used in a constructive way. Remember, you cannot experience a reality. You are not the vibration of. So if you do not give it a positive meaning, if you don't stay on that wavelength and accept that there might be a positive way to use the change, it will be impossible for you to perceive how it could be representative of the energy doing something different, yet still no less positive than it was doing before. Just different. Just ebb and flow, tides rise and fall. It is not always going to be a super highway to the stars. Sometimes you have to take a little slow side trip into the small little country town to fuel up and enjoy the scenery. That is as important a part of the path as being on the superhighway. to the stars. It's the same journey. Do you understand? Yeah. So enjoy all of it. So this is just me readjusting myself. Gee, I guess so. The migraines, the back pain. Again, it is you giving yourself an opportunity to work things out of your system. And again, many times, these things will only manifest that way because they are revealing to you that you have placed constrictions upon yourself. upon yourself with your definition of the change. It may seem as if the change has brought these things, but it isn't. In that sense, it is your definition that has brought these things and allows you to experience the change in a particular way.

work things out of your system. And again, many times, these things will only manifest that way because they are revealing to you that you have placed constrictions upon yourself. upon yourself with your definition of the change. It may seem as if the change has brought these things, but it isn't. In that sense, it is your definition that has brought these things and allows you to experience the change in a particular way. It's just that many of your definitions, as with all of you, are unconscious or subconscious, and so you don't even know they're there until all of a sudden you have the migraine and have the pain that reveals the constriction you have had in your emotional definitional mental system all along, and it's an opportunity for you to work this through by relaxing into it so that it will diffuse and expand and become part of the flow. And then you can get, in that sense, back on the super highway. But not because you have to be there more importantly than where you are now. That's the paradox. Remember to use the power of paradox. Being where you are now fully is what will allow you to be elsewhere more quickly, so to speak, euphemistically. Make sense? Thank you. you. I love you so much. Remember that this is just physics. Our unconditional love to you as well. Thank you. You and then you. Number two, do you know who you are? All right. Number one, good day. So I have been enjoying exploring a lot of the things you were just discussing. Yes. And I have been exploring a lot of the things you were just discussing. And I have, I've been exploring the concept of remembering who I am. Oh, all right. the concept of remembering who I am. And I remember, you know, things. Have you been actually remembering who you are? Yes. From time to time at least? Oh, all right. A little bit different than just exploring the concept of remembering who I am. I have moments of remembering and moments of exploring. Thank you. Okay. For your honesty. Yeah. And I'm remembering who I am in regards to what is important to me in this lifetime. All right. And all right. the real you feel? The real me feels that... Uh-uh. The answer is, to put it in your colloquial language, pretty darn good. Well, that's how the real me feels. Pretty darn good. You understand the context? I do. Thank you. Now proceed with whatever other definition you would like to add. Well, I'm just, I'm thinking about when you say, you know, remembering who we are and ourselves. Yes. Yes. me nan in this lifetime. Yes, you nan. The big self, all the lifetimes, right? Yes. That's part of it, yes. That's part of it, right.

good. Well, that's how the real me feels. Pretty darn good. You understand the context? I do. Thank you. Now proceed with whatever other definition you would like to add. Well, I'm just, I'm thinking about when you say, you know, remembering who we are and ourselves. Yes. Yes. me nan in this lifetime. Yes, you nan. The big self, all the lifetimes, right? Yes. That's part of it, yes. That's part of it, right. And I'm interested in the idea of how much these other parts of my bigger self come into play in this. Because we talk about these past lives that we're integrating. In one context, they don't come in at all. From another point of view, all of them are there 100%. From a third point of view, they may. mix and match in different percentages according to any particular given moment of how you choose to define yourself. It is all these things. Remember not this or that, this and that. So everything goes. Everything goes. Everything you can imagine is happening is happening because you cannot imagine non-existence. Uh-huh. Because I feel that I am somehow, with what I'm going through within the last few months, I'm somehow, somehow integrating a lifetime where I was not possibly remembering who I was. Yes. And it has a lot of opposition to who I am now. Oh, well, not really, but in the sense that it might be a very different vibration, yes. And I feel that my relationship in this lifetime to Adrian had a lot to do with that. It triggered that. Yes. In that sense, reflectively is a mirror. Yes, that is accurately so. And so I'm I'm intrigued and puzzled. Intrigued and puzzled. Yes. Very intrigued and puzzled. As to what I seem, what seems to come up to the surface and what I understand about it. Yes. And? Well, I feel like I'm, I was not the considerate person in that lifetime that I am now. Oh, well, so what? Is that now different than the way you prefer to be? Do you now prefer to be different than that person? In the other lifetime. Yes. Is the answer yes? Yes. Then that's it. You have gotten everything you need from that lifetime. Okay. You understand what I am saying? Once you understand that that may be a reflection of what you do not want to be, and you understand that, and understand what it is you do want to be compared to that, then that's it. That's it. You've created the connection to make a point, a reflection to show you who you are not, and by thus showing yourself who you are no longer, then who it is you more truly are. And that's it. You've used the lifetime in the correct way, unless there's some other specific way in which you wish to experience that regarding that lifetime. But in general, that's it. That's what it's for. Okay.

it. That's it. You've created the connection to make a point, a reflection to show you who you are not, and by thus showing yourself who you are no longer, then who it is you more truly are. And that's it. You've used the lifetime in the correct way, unless there's some other specific way in which you wish to experience that regarding that lifetime. But in general, that's it. That's what it's for. Okay. Okay. So because I was thinking about it and I was realizing that the last two men that had come into my life intimately, both had been abandoned by their fathers and had sort of this issue in their lifetime. Yes, well, of course, that's not uncommon on your planet in this day and age. Right. Very true. But then I, in relation to that, had defined what they had done with me as being abandoned by them. All right. But remember that that's not actually you in the personality sense, only in the greater soul sense because that personality is its own distinct, discrete person. It's not you, this person, nan. Okay. Okay. Okay. You, Nan, were never that person in that life because that person was that person. Right. And so I just have over-soul connections to this, that. Yes. Vibrational connections for the purpose of allowing this you, Nan, to define herself more clearly relative to any other perspective of the overall you. Yes. And so that is sort of the main purpose of me energetically attracting these individuals into my life to experience. this. Yes, it is one of your purposes in doing so, yes. So thank you. Okay, thank you. Does that help you? Yes, and one other area I'd like to discuss with you. Yes. So I, as you know, you know, I've had what I defined as pain in relationship to the person. Yes. Yes. But I've been feeling really strong and like very clear and connected and at peace and accepting the way things are. Oh, all right. I woke up this morning feeling... Now again, remember, of course, that accepting the way things are does not necessarily mean that you conduct. necessarily mean that you condone nor prefer things that you know are not of your own truth. Right. But you accept that you can use anything that happens to allow yourself to define more clearly who it is you are and what it is you do in fact prefer. Right. And that's what I feel I've done. I feel like I've been very, um, I've just dug in deep and I've done what I could. Accepting on that level. Yeah. Yes. So I had a great day. And then all of a sudden later in the day, like before I was coming here, I felt all the sadness coming up. Oh, all right. How exciting. How exciting? Okay, so what? Feedback on that? Well, all right, so you feel all the sadness. So own it.

I've been very, um, I've just dug in deep and I've done what I could. Accepting on that level. Yeah. Yes. So I had a great day. And then all of a sudden later in the day, like before I was coming here, I felt all the sadness coming up. Oh, all right. How exciting. How exciting? Okay, so what? Feedback on that? Well, all right, so you feel all the sadness. So own it. So acknowledge it. Get in touch with it. Dive into it. But it's such a bizarre concept because of my reality. A bizarre concept. And of course I assume that speaking with an extraterrestrial consciousness through another individual's body is somehow mundane to you. Not at all. But getting in touch with your own sadness, oh, that's a bizarre concept. No, that's not how I'm in it, but I see your point. point. All things are truly relative, are they not? That's true. But what, the thing that I'm wanting to discuss with you, is that how we can go from what, you you know, just this state of being that is very grounded, centered, feeling great. All right. Pay attention. One more time for the very first time. When you allow yourself your true state of happiness. Yeah. Then any sadness that may come up is not an interruption in the happiness, but a sadness within the happiness that allows you to explore the sadness so that what you learn from it will add to your understanding that this sadness is occurring within the happiness to allow you to use it in a happy way ultimately. All right. So it does not matter that you may feel that there may be remnant situations. remnant situations, so on and so forth, that would allow you all of a sudden explore sadness, even though you were feeling happy a moment ago. You have to allow yourself to understand that the reason this is coming up is because now from your happiness, you know you are strong enough to deal with whatever this is representative of, and add it to your happiness ultimately, rather than assuming that something has gone wrong with your happiness and that this is somehow an interruption in it. That attitude will make all the difference, even while you are feeling the sadness, you can get into it as an actor because you know in a sense that what you're doing is playing a part and that you're going to learn something from playing this part, that even when you play the sad refrain, you're still making music and that makes you happy. You see the point? Yeah. Does that help illustrate the idea a little bit more creatively? Very creatively, and I really appreciate it. Thank you very much. Thank you. Hi, Bashar. And are you, good day! Um, I had a dream this week that seemed kind of strange to me. Stuck out in my mind. Yes, and this would be.

when you play the sad refrain, you're still making music and that makes you happy. You see the point? Yeah. Does that help illustrate the idea a little bit more creatively? Very creatively, and I really appreciate it. Thank you very much. Thank you. Hi, Bashar. And are you, good day! Um, I had a dream this week that seemed kind of strange to me. Stuck out in my mind. Yes, and this would be. Um, well, I dreamed that my two of my fingers were cut off. Which two? On which hand? I believe it was the left hand. Oh, all right. Second and the last finger and the pinky. Oh, all right. Um, the second, the last finger was at the... the top of the joint, you know, the third. Now, did it simply appear that way, or did you actually go through the process of seeing them or?