Hummingbirds And Rainbows (Part 4 of 5)

designed them well, I see. And I, I, I mean, I felt presence there, you know, really I felt a presence of other beings there a lot. That entire area has been for the past three of your weeks, in your terms, quite bombarded with energy. Okay, with that connection, why that specific area, is there anything... It is an energy point, it is a sensitivity point, as you might understand, that the entire Earth has its acupressure points. Okay, good, I'm glad you said that because I've had this pull to move toward that area. Go right ahead. Is that... We will... not recommend follow your feelings. It will always lead you exactly where you need to be. Even if that does not manifest as expected, you will be following your path. Make a move in the direction of your imagination, and you will always be on the right track. All right, well, with that is, would you have an interest in connecting with your guys with me when I go to sleep tonight, that might be, well, the hell with it. I mean, I'd like to, I'd like to visit you guys. Then you may do so. Allow yourself the opportunity as you are drifting off to sleep to reflect on the vibration of what you turn to be the number. Ten. Allow yourself to structure in your imagination a free Pyramid. Allow yourself to make it electric blue. Allow yourself to step into, with your mentality, project your consciousness into that structure and know that it will project you into the vibration, which you may communicate with our civilization. Understand that you may allow yourself the opportunity to undertake this idea for the next three weeks of your time, and within that timeframe from now to three weeks from now, you will have a conscious recollection of a communication that will serve your purpose, as it will never just be random chatter. All right. I love it. Thank you. Will that work for anyone else to use those visualizations, or is that an individual? You will make it individual, but you may follow the vibrational pattern anyway. pattern anyway, you will make it individual as you automatically need to. You may also explore the vibration of your number 14 and again see a four-sided pyramid and step into that. 14 is the standard communication vibration that is used to be in contact with your civilization. And then you sort of refine it into your own window, or that this can because it's going your way. That is specific. specifically for our vibration at this time. And 14 is for it to go to our civilization. It is also to go with the other connections you have within other consciousness of other civilizations that have already set up the agreements with you prior to our joining. Follow me. We are relative newcomers to your civilization.

of refine it into your own window, or that this can because it's going your way. That is specific. specifically for our vibration at this time. And 14 is for it to go to our civilization. It is also to go with the other connections you have within other consciousness of other civilizations that have already set up the agreements with you prior to our joining. Follow me. We are relative newcomers to your civilization. There have been civilizations in contact with you for many thousands of your years, and 14 is the number of the contact. represented numerologically by the I'll say compilation down into five, which is the number of your humaniform signature vibration. Similar to our radio frequency bands. Yes. I've been exploring different ways of the numbers that I received and I went through the numerology book and all the information was quite fun and descriptive and I felt that I had quite a bit of information and not really any idea of what to do with it. And then when you started talking tonight about the, with her about K, being one of the first letters, that kind of clicked for me in terms of it being the first letter of some names, as I put a question mark on the end of that. All right. And then, okay, if K. and then Kachina, all right, that made sense to me that Kina would be... All right, we will give you a hint. All good. The K stands for knowledge. So that's it. I get to figure out what the word stands for, right? I mean, what the letters stand for. Yes. Though each and every one of them may be different as you add on to the entire idea. Now understand since you're already manifested the first symbol, that the entire formula would not have started with K but with A, which would have been the abundance. K is now knowledge. knowledge. You have already done the abundance symbol. That is why it was not included in the formula. And so these, these are symbols that I am. That represent a different type of manifestation that you can use to be of service in your way very creatively to yourself and to your civilization. The abundance symbol will be one. All right. Now the one you're exploring is the one of knowledge. You will manifest the same. You will manifest the symbol. will appropriately continue to explore. All right, thank you. Thank you. Sure. One moment. Okay. Yeah, a few weeks ago, I had the flu, and I took a lot of water, and I didn't feel like I can eat, but I drank a lot of water, and I took a lot of vitamin C in powder form, and I thought that would help the healing process. But vitamin C is an acid, and it can burn you.

continue to explore. All right, thank you. Thank you. Sure. One moment. Okay. Yeah, a few weeks ago, I had the flu, and I took a lot of water, and I didn't feel like I can eat, but I drank a lot of water, and I took a lot of vitamin C in powder form, and I thought that would help the healing process. But vitamin C is an acid, and it can burn you. I took an awful lot of vitamin C and didn't eat anything else, and I did create a burn and where it burned was in the end where I urinate in the tip of the penis. It's very painful right now. And I believe I've created an infection because right now my urine is coming out very, very cloudy. All right. You have created an imbalance, yes. You may allow yourself or have you already to rebalance in that way alkaline? Well, I've stopped taking the vitamin C because I know it's too acid, but I don't know exactly what else. Do you still have? the idea you call your flu. Not the flu, no. Then you may, for now, ingest the idea you call milk. You may also partake of the fruits you call papaya. You may also use mango. You may also use coconut. You may also use coconut. You may also eat. also eat the vegetable you call lettuce. These will, along with the water you may continue to take, cleanse and form a foundation for substance of the rebalancing of the system. And always in this way simply understand you have given yourself a manifestation of the idea of the excess of anything. Right. You will be fine. Okay. And you may utilize in visualization as always, a very, very, very soothing white light. You may tinge it for now with green as well. Then let it shift to violet as it wishes to in your imagination, all right? Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Yes. Mayor Greg. Dec. among you. Can I go back to you then? Sure. All right. I'm actually. We could. I have two questions. One, Jesus. What was his actual name 2,000 years ago? In that way, there were many as many pronunciations as the worst civilizations. You could say Isse. You can say Hisaya. You can say Issa. Yes. You can say, Yishya. You can say many different things. What about what's married and Joseph called him? Son. Son. Oh. Sonny boy. Kid. I first one. Brat. Mostly in that area is Ishwe. Brother. How did we get Jesus out of all that? You tell me. Tell your languages. Okay, let's skip that. My other question was, how many times has, or is it in my business, I just curious, has Jesus reincarnated since then? None. None. There is only the one manifestation in that sense, although there were multiple manifestations slightly before and at the same time of the same consciousness. Was Moses Jesus?

area is Ishwe. Brother. How did we get Jesus out of all that? You tell me. Tell your languages. Okay, let's skip that. My other question was, how many times has, or is it in my business, I just curious, has Jesus reincarnated since then? None. None. There is only the one manifestation in that sense, although there were multiple manifestations slightly before and at the same time of the same consciousness. Was Moses Jesus? An aspect, yes. but of a different type. Also, that would you call John the Baptist. Oh, yeah. Was Jesus? Also, an aspect, yes, of the same consciousness. Also, in a sense, in a sense, in a sense, so was Judas. I knew you were going to say that. Wow. About that time, was I on the planet and was my name David? and was my name David? You did live at that time, yes. Some knew you as David. But, you traveled far, and some knew you by other names. And did I die before 30? In the manner of speaking, yes. Although, you did have another life right after right after that, which you live to be 87. Why do people, like in the Bible, if they live in 935 years old, was that true or was... Yes. Yes. Understand you will notice in that way that as approaches your time, the ages became less and less. Is that because we didn't need that much time to develop our spirit? It is because of the choice of experiencing limitation. When you first were closer to the the idea allegorically of being in that way closer to the time when you projected your consciousness into physical materiality, there was much in the way of the unlimitation at that time. You're pretty clear then. Yes. And the more we live physically, the more we forgot it was just a game. Yes. And the more limited the time became, the more accelerated in that sense. That's why now we can all the P-300 because we know better. Because we're integrating. Yes. Okay. According to the Christian Bible, the world began like 4,000 years BC, but I think that time calculation is a little bit off. How long was it in BC when people really did live to be 900 years old? There were a few as described in that way between the idea you call 5 and 6,000 of your years ago, but that has nothing to do with the formation of your planet nor the injection of consciousness into materiality upon it. But there were individuals that long ago. that long ago who did live to those ages and longer ago and longer lives even yet. Would they dissonance of Atlanta? Some, yes. And Lamuria were very long lived. There's probably a few people somewhere on our earth that are living long, long lives right now, but not just, not in our civilization necessarily. Yes, very few.

planet nor the injection of consciousness into materiality upon it. But there were individuals that long ago. that long ago who did live to those ages and longer ago and longer lives even yet. Would they dissonance of Atlanta? Some, yes. And Lamuria were very long lived. There's probably a few people somewhere on our earth that are living long, long lives right now, but not just, not in our civilization necessarily. Yes, very few. But we see the extension of the lifespan during this transformation? Yes. He's told us that before we lived to be 200 years. Yes. Two things, since we wrote up Jesus, is that the only physical life then that you, the essence or the... As that personality, yes, as the collective personality, yes. It is the only one necessary. Understand this is a transcendental consciousness. So what the density is... Fifth. Cemetery. Connected to that idea. Okay. Now, also, me and Erica went some now with going, too. Coffee cab. We drove up this road and we got yelled out by the sky because we drove up in his driveway. And then we went up this winding road, and then we finally found a spot after driving around a while that we wanted to be in. And then these guys came along, I could think about three guys, kind of party type guys, and parked right near us. And we're kind of a little loud, not real loud, but a little bit, you know, we figured in a smoker drinking beer or something. And then, um, we saw a lot of airplanes, and we put a lot of energy. Did you move again? No. No. Why not? Well, we took a while to find that spot. We did that. No. Carol was saying maybe it was a sign that we weren't supposed to be there. You had given yourself the opportunity to recognize that you always created a symbol that showed you that was not what you wanted to be. I looked at it a different way. I thought, well, why I could just tune that out? Why allow that to... That is an allowance of a different sort, but I have nothing to do with the original purpose. Oh, well, anyway. So then... We saw a lot of airplanes, and then I felt... Then I felt a lot of energy, and then I felt sick, I had a headache, and I got little nausea. And then I got into a conjure away from my tongue. Thank you. And then Erica said, maybe those guys were really the aliens, you know. Of course. In a sense. Thank you. Now, understand. Yes. Was an opportunity for you in that moment to have tried. in that moment to have changed your mind about what you wanted to integrate.

and then I felt sick, I had a headache, and I got little nausea. And then I got into a conjure away from my tongue. Thank you. And then Erica said, maybe those guys were really the aliens, you know. Of course. In a sense. Thank you. Now, understand. Yes. Was an opportunity for you in that moment to have tried. in that moment to have changed your mind about what you wanted to integrate. You could use it that way because you can use your symbols that you give yourself in any number of different kinds of ways because your symbols have just as many aspects to them as you do. Thus you can change your focus and change the focus of the symbol you create for yourself. But you will find that you could also have moved and accomplished something else or stayed and accomplished what you did or many other ideas. It was a very generalized symbol and contained many possible aspects which could have managed could have manifested it. Thank you. Then I had a mentally communication, maybe it was with myself. I'm not sure where it was from, but just it said to me that I have to accustomed myself to the sound, something like that. I had something to do with maybe the spaceship or just some sound aliens to our planet or something that I would have to, um, Any sound can be found within you. Okay. Because you contain all the vibrations necessary to make connections to any other idea. Find that sound within you. Create it for yourself and you will surround yourself with that reality and be in touch with it. Understand you could also have... Use that situation to create that sound round and about yourselves to such a degree that those other individuals that those other individuals would not have even perceived you as being present. Yes, that is true. Okay, well. Thank you. Yes. What is the treatment for A? Understand, first of all, that if you wish me to say the treatment, the treatment, it will be the same as the cause, your mind. That is the only THE treatment. There can be other ideas in your material universe that can be a treatment. They will all stem, first of all, from allowing that symbol to serve its function. The function that that symbol has been created to serve to serve is to allow there to be a bridge between between different factions in your society to drop the barriers of prejudice and allow there to be the acceptance, even as the immunity barriers drop to allow in changes, transformation and new idea, which is what death always symbolizes, complete and total transformation of the being. Understand in this way that the primary reason it began in the first place was from the, I'll say, lack of allowance of the man and female energy within each and every one of you to be blended.

barriers of prejudice and allow there to be the acceptance, even as the immunity barriers drop to allow in changes, transformation and new idea, which is what death always symbolizes, complete and total transformation of the being. Understand in this way that the primary reason it began in the first place was from the, I'll say, lack of allowance of the man and female energy within each and every one of you to be blended. Thus you created the dichotomy of the struggle of having to express male and female energy in many different ways physically. Thus you created the idea, then once having established that premise of then needing still while not being able to look at it, of forcing yourself to look at it in that way by breaking down the barriers that separate each and every one of you and bring you to of you and bring you together. Understand that that is what is occurring right now. You are finding that all of the different individuals are here to four said they would have nothing to do with all these other factions are now rallying together in common cause. And exploring the entire idea, bringing into focus, forcing themselves to face the idea of the, I'll say, blending of female and male energy within each individual. The more you allow this to serve this purpose, then you will automatically either find a quote unquote cure to reflect the cure within yourself that has taken place, or you will simply allow it to change, allow it to become non-existent by what you turn to be a mutation. This can also occur. That particular viral form can mutate into a non-infectious form. You follow me. Yeah. You can, through the idea of your mental energy, allow it to do so. You can vibrate in touch with a reality that does not contain that viral form, that symbol within it in such a way that it can then be said to have mutated out of existence in that way, in the same way it manifested in. Now, certain symbols that you call chemical can also be used by many individuals. Allow me to say that the individuals already of that particular type of nature to, I'll say, dabble in chemical symbols will be on the right track to some degree. Allow me to say, there is an opportunity within the substance you also call a refinement of cherry. To look into that idea, the rearrangement of the molecular structure of that particular fruit can have some benefit in that way. Explore it all. You will also find that blue, blue, electric blue, vibrational resonance in terms of straight frequency can have that effect as well. Also, you can find that magnetic fields, magnetic fields can cause a suspension of the activity within the genetic structure of the viral form. Exposure to certain frequencies of the viral form.

idea, the rearrangement of the molecular structure of that particular fruit can have some benefit in that way. Explore it all. You will also find that blue, blue, electric blue, vibrational resonance in terms of straight frequency can have that effect as well. Also, you can find that magnetic fields, magnetic fields can cause a suspension of the activity within the genetic structure of the viral form. Exposure to certain frequencies of the viral form. magnetic fields, allow it to be, for now, the idea of the seven and one half cycles per second that represents the earth crystal. It will allow individuals exposed to such a vibration at seven and one half cycles per second to get in touch with their connection to the earth and the basic reasons for the formation of any idea within nature in that way that the earth provides as a symbol for the exploration of that portion of your consciousness. The crystal you call emerald will be particularly beneficial. for this idea as well. And you may allow many individuals upon holding the crystal emerald. And in this way also exploring the red vibration, the vibrant red vibration, with connection also to the vibrant green vibration, thus also exemplified within that idea that is called cherry upon your planet. The red and the green will be found in this way to have some exemplification with it halting. And allow me to say that also symbolically in this way that by the time you understand the idea of the usages of those vibrations in conjunction with each other, the red and the green, that is your idea you call Christmas time. You will have also found what you turned to be a breakthrough in this idea. Dr. Peevoo said there would be a cure that has to do with sound. That is the vibration of the seven and one half cycles per second. Yes. There is an instrument called the Electro-Aki-Spo which delivers a very variety of vibratory food. by with very frequently and had to function without meeting. There is a psychological approach called neurolinguistic program. Yes, that will be a benefit as well. And the two together? Yes. A variation of the first, direct application of the second will work. Understand in this way, it is again, as you say, the neurolinguistic programming, one more way to get in touch with the same. way to get in touch with the center of the self and the creation of causes within the self. You follow me. Yeah. And again, as we said it will be a representation of the choosing of another vibration of another reality, which has nothing to do with that viral form. Mm-hmm. Will you say a variation of the post of an electro-accuscus? Yes. It will be a variation of that idea. In other words, it will be a refinement of the process that is now used. It will be a refinement of the process that is now used.

again, as we said it will be a representation of the choosing of another vibration of another reality, which has nothing to do with that viral form. Mm-hmm. Will you say a variation of the post of an electro-accuscus? Yes. It will be a variation of that idea. In other words, it will be a refinement of the process that is now used. It will be a refinement of the process that is now used. used. More sensitivity can be used to discover that refinement. Thank you. Thank you. Question. Yes. Yes. I have some questions here. One is, for a while I've been identifying with a movie production out on the limb for several months, and I've done everything I can in physical reality to, I think, lead to the man of it. And I've been, this weekend, I was working with this channel, Kevin Ryerson, and John, who channels through him, and was informed that I was indeed a part of this soul group that was forming to work for a three-year cycle. Yes. Okay, you know, that's all good and that's all well, and I quit my job, and I feel this magnetic pull towards this project, and yet it hasn't manifested quite yet, and it's almost there. Not all the players are yet in place. Okay. Okay. I understand that it is by mass agreement as well. Okay. I have this space here and it's really, I'm meditating a lot. I'm working with the finer energies a lot to keep myself still, as in that Hummingbird image. Allow me to ask your question. Yes, please too. If the project were already underway, what would you be doing? It is already underway. Thank you. Would you do anything different than you are doing now? Yes, I'd be on it. If I had the choice, I'd be more actively on it. It's not quite time for that yet, I don't guess. But the space I'm waiting, I mean, I know it's there. I know that project is me, and yet there's still space, so it's in the matter of the timing. Yes. So for me, I don't... Explore the timing, then. Use your imagination to explore the timing. You can then allow yourself to be attracted to the other individuals who will also be involved. Well, I've done that as much as I can. It's like, but there's still, it's like, I can feel the pool, and I can feel it's going to be down the road a bit. Then all we can say to you at this time, if that is your choice, to simply continue to follow the pool. Okay, one other questions on manifestation of idea, because that's what this has been. This is part of that whole thing that I learned 15 years ago about ease of creation, because it's very easy to create this thus far. Yes.

I can feel it's going to be down the road a bit. Then all we can say to you at this time, if that is your choice, to simply continue to follow the pool. Okay, one other questions on manifestation of idea, because that's what this has been. This is part of that whole thing that I learned 15 years ago about ease of creation, because it's very easy to create this thus far. Yes. And yet, when I'm on the home stretch, there's this space there, and in the past, which I know I'm a new, new person, every moment, I feel that space with anxiety. All right. You are exploring, as many individuals are at this time, simply the idea of blockages themselves. You follow me? Yeah. In other words, follow me. Okay. You are exploring the idea of blockages themselves while you have the time to do so. You will not have the time later. I know, I know that. My question on manifestation is, do I, in this interim, my, another part of me says I should be going ahead and working on other projects. And yet I feel like by doing that, I'm canceling the very idea. Nope. As we said, you can look at it in the way that if you are going on to creating the beginning foundations of other things, beyond this project, you are taking it for granted that this project is already taking care of itself. That is acting as if the project is real. If the project to you were really real, you would be involved in it and also thinking about what you would be doing next. Because this one would have already been taken for granted that it is accomplished. Therefore, if you are going to work on other projects, it can be used as a form of canceling, but in your case does not have to be. If you simply understand that you can look toward other projects as simply being that what you will do beyond the project you are already involved in, which you can do. now take it for granted is going to manifest unto itself. Okay. That way you are reaching beyond the immediate and therefore can contain all of the immediate. You follow me. I do. I don't know why I have it's validation because in this space, you know, it's really the first time in many... In this lifetime, I've allowed... All right, here is a suggestion. Okay. Understand that when you come across the idea of exploring the idea you call blog, Look at the exploration of those blockages with the frame of reference of your entire life. Not just what is happening now or what has just happened.

I don't know why I have it's validation because in this space, you know, it's really the first time in many... In this lifetime, I've allowed... All right, here is a suggestion. Okay. Understand that when you come across the idea of exploring the idea you call blog, Look at the exploration of those blockages with the frame of reference of your entire life. Not just what is happening now or what has just happened. In other words, you know that what you are exploring now will enable you later on in the project to assimilate and appreciate certain things that perhaps you would not have been able to do had you not explore what you are exploring now. You know this has been true in the past. You know this has been true in the past. Allow yourself to know, therefore, that what you are experiencing now will play a part later. In other words, whatever you are experiencing in your present, know it has application later, if you cannot perceive what application it has now. Know that if you view this application in terms of your entire life, you will see how it can apply later. And you would not want to have missed out what you are doing now, because it will give you an appreciation later that you will come to understand you needed. You follow me. So, in other words, there are any specific steps. specific steps at this point I need to take to align for the group. No, follow the pull. And continue to follow the pull. That is your symbol of being on the right track, which are never really awful, but consciously on the right track. I mean, I'm really getting that lesson in these last few weeks. All right, simply allow it to flow, allow it to unfold, and enjoy the explorations you are having now. It's really a bit. really a bitch to deal sometimes to the limitations that we've already prescribed in our mind. And I know and thank, I'm really grateful to the lessons that you have given me, and that is that the limitations that I have can just as easily not be there. And I want you to know that it's a direct sharing of your consciousness that has allowed this project to manifest as it has, I feel. We allow ourselves to act in service and we thank you for allowing us to do so for you have given yourself. given yourself the information by allowing us to serve you as a reflection and as a mirror we have given you nothing you did not already know and if I may suggest that if you are going to create the idea in that way of the blockage then by all means be a creative bitch. Yes. All right you than you. Okay.

thank you for allowing us to do so for you have given yourself. given yourself the information by allowing us to serve you as a reflection and as a mirror we have given you nothing you did not already know and if I may suggest that if you are going to create the idea in that way of the blockage then by all means be a creative bitch. Yes. All right you than you. Okay. For many years in the past, the fact that when I close my eyes, I see basically black as I don't see pictures with any color or form, except on a very, very rare occasion. Really? Yeah, at least from conscious death. At one time... Let me ask you a question. Yes. Do you like animals? Yes. Do you like horses? Do you like horses? Not a lot. What do you like? Dogs. Dogs? What kind? Oh, medium to small size. Other than that, I like them all. Can you picture a dog? Yeah. What color? White. Now this is different. Oh, this is different. All right. Yeah, what I'm talking about is closing the eyes and having a picture. Why is it different? Because, um... Well, if you could answer this, you are very creative. All right? Why is it different? I'm formulating my answer. Okay, I haven't, well, I haven't started it all out. Now, part of this may be... Oh, oh, oh, oh. Sure, part of this may be... Oh, oh, oh, oh. Allow me to suggest this conversation will not go anywhere until you answer that question. Why is it different? Now, while you are thinking about why it is different, allow me to say, it really does not matter whether you can image or not. It really makes no difference. You have your own particular form of manifestation, and visualization does not have to be graphically visual in order to accomplish the same ideas. Okay, certainly. Okay, certainly. Actually, I wanted to let you know that. I'm not concerned about it. I'm not worried about it. At one time in my past, but I really was. Now I'm basically interested in knowing more about it. All right, but again, that does not answer the question. Right. May I ask you another question? Not before I answer the first question. All right, but allow me to suggest that my question may assist you in answering. You know, I can talk about this first one for a while if you'll allow me to. Okay. I don't know that answer. Oh, thank you very much. Thank you very much. I don't know that. But I, in telling a lot of it has to do with the fact that other people have expressed closing their eyes and seeing its visual picture very vividly and stuff like that. So I am utilizing that in making my estimation here. Wholeheart. But I'm aware that it may not be valid. Well, it's valid, of course.

don't know that answer. Oh, thank you very much. Thank you very much. I don't know that. But I, in telling a lot of it has to do with the fact that other people have expressed closing their eyes and seeing its visual picture very vividly and stuff like that. So I am utilizing that in making my estimation here. Wholeheart. But I'm aware that it may not be valid. Well, it's valid, of course. For them, yes. It is valid for you if you created to be so in that way, but of course it is based upon a judgment of other individuals that is a judgment of yourself based upon other individuals. on other individuals and what they can do and what you think you should be able to do. So what do we do? Right. And I'm aware of that. I'm aware of what they may be doing, maybe exactly what I'm doing, and I don't know it's the same thing. Or it may be different and it doesn't matter. And that's what I learned to find out, not whether it matters or not, I know that, but I just wanted some more, you know, ways of looking at this thing just for the sake of understanding. Then will you allow us to ask our second question? Sure. I'm not answered the first question, yes. Did? When we said it does not matter whether you can visualize it or not make a difference in how you answered. No. I already do that. Did you? Then why did you ask? Because it was a portion of myself that I was exploring. All right. Whether it mattered is not of great, you know, essence in whether I ask a question that I'm exploring or not. You know, something, it's a valid idea. idea to explore it. Yes. It's also valid idea to explore something that doesn't matter whether I explore or not. True. So I was exploring something that didn't really matter. But it was interesting to me, and I'm excited by exploring their subjects. But I go to it there. What have you found? Not a whole lot from this discussion. I already know, I really knew and consciously knew, just about everything he used, reflected back to me. I was... Then you discovered a great deal. How did I discover? I already knew all that stuff. And I knew that I knew it. I didn't discover anything. You created an exploration. By definition, coming up with the idea that you already knew it was what you discovered on this most recent exploration. Well, I'm not sure that I agree with that. I'm not sure that I discovered that I already knew that. I already knew that. I, going into it, I knew that I knew that. However, the... But in creating an exploration, you create a discovery, even if you already knew it. Okay. That is why we asked you.

with the idea that you already knew it was what you discovered on this most recent exploration. Well, I'm not sure that I agree with that. I'm not sure that I discovered that I already knew that. I already knew that. I, going into it, I knew that I knew that. However, the... But in creating an exploration, you create a discovery, even if you already knew it. Okay. That is why we asked you. Why did you feel the need to ask the question if you already knew it? Why did you feel the need to make an exploration of it? Well, your question assumes that I felt the need and I didn't feel the need. I felt a desire. Why? I was interested. I was interested. It's just a fortune of my self that I was exploring. exploring something that is again exploring all right but understand that when we say knowing yeah that precedes the idea of exploring in any form sure to create an exploration is to create the question sure which is not knowing knowing is knowing when you created a question it was not a knowing state okay so as far as I'm concerned we really explored what I wanted to explore we've just been talking about the questions of exploring what do you want to explore I want to know I want to know I want to to explore the concepts of seeing blackness with the eyes closed versus what others report of seeing vivid pictures with an eyes closed go ahead explore away I was hoping you would explore it by verbalizing what I don't it is your expedition you define the terms of the expedition. You are doing the exploring. We are along for the ride. We are tourists. Where's your flowered shirts? All right. I'm not going to worry about it. I got another question. I want my money back. I didn't find anything on this expedition either. Me either. I think about that a little bit. No, go ahead. My, my, my, my. All right. You may not be someone that actually thinks in terms of visually. Some people are more visually oriented and some people maybe feel things that other people wouldn't see. Or hear them? Or yes. So you might get something different than the other, which is exciting because then you could share it with the other person and open up new avenues for the other person who's getting, who's maybe. getting who's maybe more visually organized, you know, with way to proceed. So just another choice. Thank you, Pam. Now, Bashar, why can you have you said that? Well, that I didn't know. Oh, yes. What you and I talked about, I did know. Of course, I didn't know it. But I didn't have a conscious. Thank you, Pam. We told you that.

open up new avenues for the other person who's getting, who's maybe. getting who's maybe more visually organized, you know, with way to proceed. So just another choice. Thank you, Pam. Now, Bashar, why can you have you said that? Well, that I didn't know. Oh, yes. What you and I talked about, I did know. Of course, I didn't know it. But I didn't have a conscious. Thank you, Pam. We told you that. You might, in case you want to explore the neuro-linguistic programming that was mentioned by Pearl over here about, you know, with Ava. who's talking about it deals all with that deals with people who are more visualized yeah water visual kinesthetic feeling and um it's very interesting yeah I'm very good at visualizing things but I'm not really good at feeling my visualization okay well I will express how I treated visualization for myself oh right I was a mechanical engineer for 12 years and the essence of mechanical engineering is visualizing and then translating to paper and then to the universe but my visualizations were never of a picture sort then how were you able to work for him back job well the best way that i can describe it is as follows if i go into a room and i look at everything in the room and i know what it's like in the room then i turn out the lights i still have a seal not really a feel that's not the best term for it i have a sense of where everything is yes it's a different from the feeling but it's kind of a shade of feeling if you will yes and that's the way i visualized it's as though i'm standing in a dark pitchback black room i still know where everything is even though i haven't yeah i don't see it then why do you ask me why we felt we did not need to tell when the pam shared her view with you it was an exact description of what you then i'll say proceeded to describe to us that you already did what was there for us to say what you were asking us was for information you already knew intrinsically in that your particular methodology and definition of quote unquote visualization or sensing or whatever you wish to call it was already secured within you you are then asking for beyond that a definition which you are going to translate into your sensing terms anyway and so you will not visualize them no matter how long we rattle on you are going to to take everything we say and render it into your methodology of sensing therefore the idea of describing to you visualization in any other way other than what you already use in that sense is not going to add one iota of knowledge to you well excuse me did you understand that idea i understood what you said in other words

not visualize them no matter how long we rattle on you are going to to take everything we say and render it into your methodology of sensing therefore the idea of describing to you visualization in any other way other than what you already use in that sense is not going to add one iota of knowledge to you well excuse me did you understand that idea i understood what you said in other words you are all always choosing how you will perceive the idea of the physical reality you create. Now, we could sit and talk about the idea of visualization all the time for hours and hours and hours. You are still going to take all of that information and run it through your particular filter, which will render it into a translation of the sensing that you are talking about that is your particular message. Therefore, what is there that we can tell you that would make a difference that you cannot create for yourself first? I don't know. Very good. The answer is nothing. It is up to you how you wish to see the reality you create. If it is in the form you call sensing, so be it. That is what Pam told you and that is what we already told you. That it does not matter if you visualize in the classical sense. you already have your own methodology and any description of visualization is always going to be rendered into your methodology. To assume that it may be different individuals is correct. But you may simply, and already have made the simple comparative analogy, that you may simply take it for granted, that to some individuals, visualizing in their minds is almost identical to what you perceive as visualizing with your eyes. that you already knew, and so we would not be enlightening you any further anyway. Okay. May I ask you two questions? Of course. That was the first question. There's the second question. Why do you presume that I enter this discussion with concern or worry or that it matters or... I don't. I ask it because I'm interested. All right. Allow me to say that we are not projecting the idea that you are concerned or worried that is within you. That is within you. We are simply saying that when you create an interest, it is that when we say why not, that is an expression that has to do with the reasons for having created what you create. It is not something to fall back on to avoid the reasons you created the situation. When we say why not. not. That is one type of answer, but if you persist in creating an exploration, then it is not the answer for that. When you create an exploration, you are in the exploration if you are creating questions within it, creating a separation from your knowingness.

the reasons for having created what you create. It is not something to fall back on to avoid the reasons you created the situation. When we say why not. not. That is one type of answer, but if you persist in creating an exploration, then it is not the answer for that. When you create an exploration, you are in the exploration if you are creating questions within it, creating a separation from your knowingness. And thus always, when you ask a question from that point of view, we are going to respond because that is the of the moment to you as if there is a reason for the separation. As we say, there is no such thing as being just curious. Your curiosity is never idle and always is created, and your explorations and questions are always enacted for specific reasons. Not in that sense to show you nothing. Not to show you something you already know. When you create the idea of exploring, as you say, the visualization, it is for you in that sense to explore. We will elucidate where you allow us to in that sense. But since you became more concerned, quote unquote, with the idea of the nature, of the construction of the exploration itself, rather than simply realizing that it is all right to create questions, all right, to create exploration in the manner of separation, then you will always be receding from the idea of the expedition itself. We are always going to respond to you when you create a question, as if you are coming from a viewpoint of separation, because that is the only viewpoint questions are created in. And the viewpoint of separation is the viewpoint of the belief of limited self. Therefore, if you are going to create a question and in the very next breath say, well, the re-do was no reason for that because I already know the answer, then understand there is nothing to tell you. Well, I understand what you're saying. However, if I ask a question and you give me one answer and I say, well, I know that answer, I'm looking for a different answer that I don't know. This is what I was looking for. I was looking for, an answer that you didn't give me that I didn't know. Do you know? But maybe that was the only answer there was that was needed. Yeah. Do you think it might be possible that the many times we have said that we are not here to provide answers for you but to assist you in knowing your own, that that is something you have not yet really I've totally got that. Then allow me right now to ask you to activate your imagination. What do you imagine we could have said that would be something you didn't know? All right, I'll play along. I'll play along.