Life Is But A Dream (Part 3 of 3)

I've started reading it. I'm about halfway through, and it's raised a ton of questions. Didn't know questions waived that much. Oh, these weighed a lot. Is that book, is the government, the hierarchy of the government described in that book fairly accurate and fairly of the universe? They have great levels of bureaucracy and... Are you talking about the idea beyond your planet? Oh, yes, yes. From this universe, then the seven super universes and on and on. In some senses, this is so, however, and this is a big however, you must understand that a lot of the information that was channeled through in the result of that book is hierarchical interpretation based on the hierarchical structure existent in your world. Okay. You got it? Got it. In some senses it does exist. Okay. In the sense that certainly there are relative positions of things, and we do recognize that there are different strata of frequencies, but it isn't really quite so hard-cut and dried as that work may have you think in terms of the bureaucratic sense, because from our level, within the hierarchy, there really isn't a hierarchy as much as there simply is an automatic organizational principle that simply allows like vibration to seek like vibration. In that sense, it isn't that structured in the way that you structure your. organizations. Does that make sense to you? Yes. However, at the time the information was received on your planet, it was the only way that your world could make sense out of and interpret that concept into its own terminology. Similar to the idea of what you call some of your religious tenants, such as the Ten Commandments and so forth, which were never commandments at all, but simply recognitions of what is. For example, number one, the way your society translated it when the information was originally accessed was, number one, I am the Lord your God, you shall have no other gods before me. The actual transmission was, there is only one. Anything you may consider to be another isn't another, but is only part of the one, therefore cannot be another God. See the difference? Yes. Yes. Does that answer your question? Yes. What had distressed me when I read it is that It seemed that there was a great group of beings that had assumed that the book describes an assumed power and authority. It appeared that the planet has not been self-governed, that they talked about our planet. Our planet, and it sounds to me like most planets, well, our planet, for sure. In a way, we are not saying that certain kinds of beings do not exist. We are not saying that there have not been certain kinds of interactions that have taken place on your planet that might be to some degree, representative of issues of control. It is not necessarily as absolutely linear or cut and dried as what your history books may account.

sounds to me like most planets, well, our planet, for sure. In a way, we are not saying that certain kinds of beings do not exist. We are not saying that there have not been certain kinds of interactions that have taken place on your planet that might be to some degree, representative of issues of control. It is not necessarily as absolutely linear or cut and dried as what your history books may account. However, again, there are still a number of ways to understand these things, a number of ways to look at them, and a number of ways to interpret them depending upon the level from which you are willing to approach it. So, again, it is to some degree true, but in many ways it is also an interpretation, even though there have been certain interactions that have been, in many ways, controlling, so to speak, from one level. But you still have, and always have had the capacity to make of that what you will and to participate in it. However, your consciousness may dictate, according to your own frequency of choice. Well, there was a paragraph in there that said that this mortal ascension plan had been set up by this government and that are these spiritual beings, and that we have no choice, that souls who do not choose to go on a mortal ascension path are terminated. And that was a question of mine. Can anyone terminate a soul? Let's put it this way. Everything always changes, and certainly what you may call a soul can change its frequency into something certainly you may not even recognize as such, but I'll tell it to you this way, and perhaps this will give you the foundation that you can apply to any other such question which may arise. See if you can garner it from this perspective. Existence only knows one quality. Existence. That's its primal definition. So that which exists will always exist. That which does not exist is its own definition. Non-existence is already full of all the things that will never exist. There's no room in non-existence for things that do exist to become non-existence. You understand? Yes. Existence is its own quality. That which is, is. It isn't anything else, especially it isn't, isn't, isn'tness. It is only isness. So if you have isness now, which obviously you do, or we wouldn't be having this conversation, you always will have business. Your isness may change form, but you will always be fundamentally you. Because fundamentally, you are all that is, expressing itself in this unique way. All of you, all of us, all that is. within all that is, is, expressing itself in all the ways all that is can. Does that make some sense to you? It does. It does. Therefore, all perspectives are valid. All realities are real. All the hierarchies you are describing in some sense do exist.

but you will always be fundamentally you. Because fundamentally, you are all that is, expressing itself in this unique way. All of you, all of us, all that is. within all that is, is, expressing itself in all the ways all that is can. Does that make some sense to you? It does. It does. Therefore, all perspectives are valid. All realities are real. All the hierarchies you are describing in some sense do exist. Whether you experience them depends upon the frequency of your perspective. And how you experience the idea. or not experience it at all. Okay, so I can, you can choose to not experience some of those realities. No. No. You don't choose to not experience. You simply don't experience what you don't choose. Okay. You understand the difference? It's not that you make an intentional choice to not experience something. It's simply that whatever you do make an intentional choice to experience to experience automatically doesn't leave for you to experience anything else but what you choose I see because you are at any time a 100% experience so if you are experiencing something then on some level you chose to even if that be unconscious okay you understand I do does that help you it does thank you thank you was one thing about the Lucifer rebellion talked about Lucifer said and my impression was that his great crime was challenging the system and state that the mortals and individuals were not being allowed self-choice and determination. Is that accurate? In some sense, although it goes far beyond that concept, that is to some degree a great oversimplification. Again, it is a high interpretive issue within the way it has been translated. And it actually refers to certain historical events that are both human and extraterrestrial in nature and extra-dimensional in nature, but it is also now at this point so much far beyond that. Because at this point, the idea. of what you call Lucifer has been infused with so many other meanings according to the collective consciousness of your world. Yes. And on one level, the idea ascribed as what you would call Satan is the idea really of the opposite of the world's spirit, the collective fear of your world in an archetypal embodiment, which doesn't mean it's any less real. It simply means it is, however, simply the product of the archetypal embodiment of the collective consciousness of your planet on a negative side. But Lucifer, in that sense, is a more neutral concept. Yes. In general. Yes. It has to do with the concept of knowledge. Yes. And freedom to choose, yes. Okay. Well, and that said last thing. Our planet chose to go along back with this neutral rebellion. He was not evil, quote, quote, quote. Our planet chose to go along, as did several other planets, and we were thusly punished and isolated and content.

side. But Lucifer, in that sense, is a more neutral concept. Yes. In general. Yes. It has to do with the concept of knowledge. Yes. And freedom to choose, yes. Okay. Well, and that said last thing. Our planet chose to go along back with this neutral rebellion. He was not evil, quote, quote, quote. Our planet chose to go along, as did several other planets, and we were thusly punished and isolated and content. Again, this is an extreme oversimplification of a multi-dimensional effect created when consciousness interacted with itself on certain levels that then resulted in the densification and stratification of itself just because of how it looked and understood and defined itself to be. It is not in that sense a punishment, but it is in that sense a densification. If you want to call that a fall because you know it's going from a higher frequency to a lower one, so be it, but all you're really describing is a physics principle. I understand. Does that help you? It does. Thank you so much. Thank you. Hello. And are you good day? Fine. I have a question to ask you about, I'm a massage therapist. Oh, all right. You find joy in this, yes? Yes. All right. My question is, is I've been taking different classes and different modalities. Yes. And I find that the human body is amazing. Yes. And I find it is almost like a computer. Yes, not almost. Well. In many ways, it actually is a computer. The physical body is. is an arrangement of consciousness that does allow your consciousness to be computed into a physical terminology. When people come to me with their problems or they want something done. Yes. Is there a way of assessing, and I find that I can do like a touch for health or a testing. To test whether this is the problem, will the body, I mean, I feel like when I talk to their body, I ask the question and I do the test, is that their body really, is that their body really answering me or are they just... It can be body consciousness, yes. All levels have their own level of consciousness, and it can be body consciousness that you are in contact with, yes. And is it important that my energy is, do I have to change my energy with each person, or is it... You may find that that might simply be automatic, because everyone is a different frequency, and you may find it might take some identification resonance for you to key into some degree to the difference within them. But there will also always be a general harmonic, that is your unique vibratory signature, that represents the ideal state you are attempting to help them and train themselves to take themselves too.

each person, or is it... You may find that that might simply be automatic, because everyone is a different frequency, and you may find it might take some identification resonance for you to key into some degree to the difference within them. But there will also always be a general harmonic, that is your unique vibratory signature, that represents the ideal state you are attempting to help them and train themselves to take themselves too. But you may need to adjust some of the frequency to be able to reach them on their level so that they can recognize the signal by recognizing it as their own, and then following that signal back into the idealized state, which then if they choose to do so will allow them to render themselves back in. into their natural state of health. That's what a healer does, after all, anyway. It gives a person a clue as to where they want to be within their own ideal, their own ideal resonant frequency. That's why you may always find it to be subtly different, because everyone has a subtly different signature vibration, which makes them the unique individual that they are. Does that make some sense? Yes. Do I have somebody channeling through me when I do this? There are sometimes those entities and guides that do assist you, Yes, it isn't necessarily always the case because certainly you all have your own resources of tapping into the infinite for whatever energy you need to channel. But yes, from time to time, there are some friends who do give, shall we say, metaphorically, a hand. Okay, thank you very much. Thank you. By the way, sometimes, at least one of them is actually an animal consciousness. A animal consciousness? Yes. Sometimes the idea of what kind of assistance you may need to give someone may actually come more strongly from what you may recognize, typically, as the signature vibration of an animal consciousness. And so sometimes an animal consciousness is one of the guides that you have to help you get onto that proper level. And you can do the same thing with animals that you can do with people? And plants and rocks and everything, because everything is a form of consciousness. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Hello again. All right. Good day to you again. Yes. I wanted to share with you the delight that I had at hearing the announcement that some of your people, they as Hassani, will be appearing on future shows. You are saying that the announcement of our physical arrival somehow took your light away? light away? No. It's... You said it delighted you. Perhaps, I don't... I don't... Oh. Oh. Or re-lighted me. All right, thank you. It, I suppose it's a recognition on my part of, definitely a reunion. I feel a great affinity with you and the information that you're present. All right, we thank you for that, however.

on future shows. You are saying that the announcement of our physical arrival somehow took your light away? light away? No. It's... You said it delighted you. Perhaps, I don't... I don't... Oh. Oh. Or re-lighted me. All right, thank you. It, I suppose it's a recognition on my part of, definitely a reunion. I feel a great affinity with you and the information that you're present. All right, we thank you for that, however. Remember, what you are feeling is the reunion with yourself. Exactly. That's why our interaction will ultimately be possible, because you will have reunited with yourself. Yes. And thus exist on the frequency level that makes it possible for us to exist as equals. And we always take joy in what we harmonize with, and which we harmonize with it because, because we recognize it as ourself. Yes. Yes. In Courtney Brown's book, he speaks of a proposed or intended emigration of Martian natives to his planet. The remnants of the ancient civilization, yes. Some of them have already incorporated into your society. And of course, do remember the majority of the ancient Martian civilization when that planet was still inhabitable and became uninhabitable, actually simply incarnated as humans. Yes. There are not as many left in the ancient form, but there are some, and there are already some immigration to that effect, and there will be more. Now, he spoke of numerous ships coming at some point once negotiations for immigration are established. Yes. Approximately how many remain and will be coming, and will they be recognized? Several hundred thousand. And they will be recognized for what they are? They will. Yes. Not at first, but eventually, they will. So they basically have, along with help from the Grays, is genetically engineered, so they appear very much. For adaptability on your planet, yes. Yes. And also being more similar to humans in a lot of ways. Yes. Although some of them will retain some of the ancient traits, and you will recognize this, as such. There is a plethora of entertainment features, movies, and shows, and so on now, with regards to aliens arriving on this planet. And most of them, unfortunately, seem to be... Most of them, what, judgmental? Yes, judgmentally, he said, I recognize a slight disharmony with my own ideal. Well, what does that give you an opportunity to do then? Do something about it, present something. But also, in that they are being presented in the way they are being presented, and first of all, do not assume that all of them are necessarily that way. No. The idea is for you to, A, if you are approaching this in a positive way, allow yourself to simply recognize that your society may not react the same way that it would have, perhaps, many years ago, to the same kind of presentation.

But also, in that they are being presented in the way they are being presented, and first of all, do not assume that all of them are necessarily that way. No. The idea is for you to, A, if you are approaching this in a positive way, allow yourself to simply recognize that your society may not react the same way that it would have, perhaps, many years ago, to the same kind of presentation. And thus, you are giving yourself a calibration scale to see how much you've changed with regard to that particular negative idea. So we're looking at that idea again to see whether we really... Yes. You're testing yourself, and now, as we understand the fare that is about to be offered filmatically, you are pulling out all the stops, because now you can handle it. Yes. And it will... bring up more people's issues about it. It will. However, again, remember, there are also in, and I mean blatantly and directly in, some of these offerings that you are referring to, very, very, very constructive and positive messages as well. Yes. They definitely point in that direction. Yes, we understand that again, for the purposes of what you call your dramatic license, some of these things may be presented in what may appear to be a negative light or enforced upon you in negative ways, but again, take it all in stride and understand that at least now you are looking at many of these things as an amusement park ride, as opposed to something that you really think might actually happen. Wee! Yes. Yes. Well, that's interesting. That's very good. And I am motivated somewhat to perhaps do some writing with regards to... All right, there you are, you see. Then you can tip the scale. scale in the other direction, but again, don't necessarily assume that these things aren't in and of themselves necessarily so negative. No, in that they are bringing it to mind, making people think about it, and making people write what they would, quote unquote, prefer, it is very good. Do you understand that, even in what you may call the most vehement invasion film, what is the first positive thing and the first positive side effect you see with regard to that idea as presented in that film? people get to vent their fears and... But I mean more obvious, more on the surface, more immediate. Hmm. We understand you may not yet have actually viewed the film in question. But in the idea of the presentation of an absolute invasion that would be unstoppable by any means except... Love. In what format? I would say... What is the obvious and immediate surface appear? apparent consequence of the invasion? A restructuring of our society in a massive way. All the borders collapse. Yes. Everyone becomes a member of the earth, regardless of who they are.

may not yet have actually viewed the film in question. But in the idea of the presentation of an absolute invasion that would be unstoppable by any means except... Love. In what format? I would say... What is the obvious and immediate surface appear? apparent consequence of the invasion? A restructuring of our society in a massive way. All the borders collapse. Yes. Everyone becomes a member of the earth, regardless of who they are. And the so-called common enemy tends to get people to drop their differences in unit. Thank you. You're welcome. Therefore, you are simply showing yourselves that, given a good enough reason, you can do that, and therefore maybe, just maybe, you don't need quite that big reason to do so after all. And then we can do it without the big reason. Thank you. You're welcome. So you see the changes that you actually are showing yourselves by presenting yourself something of that nature? When at first glance it may seem negative, in fact, it may be indicative of the fact that you're ready for great positive change. I agree. I agree. And thank you very much. And you as well. And have a good trip home. I am already at home. But thank you. Say hi to mom and the kids and everybody. My entire society is telempathically plugged in. They all send their regards. Thank you. Goodbye. Ah, Tuba Shah. And do you good day, Professor. He doesn't forget nothing. The young lady that asked about the Arancho book and the seven, seven super universes. What I wanted to ask you about was the great attractor. Yes. And that was on my mind tonight. What could you tell us about this? Are you simply now referring to the physics concept, to the astronomical concept? Yes. In that sense, it is, to some degree analogous, although slightly different than what some of your scientists think, but analogous to the concept that they hold. In that, there is a position, shall it be called the zero point, within the entire structure of your physiological universe that represents the ultimate point around which all creation spins. in that sense is also drawn into and expanded out from to begin with. It is in that sense the ultimate no point that gives rise, the gateway, the doorway, that gives rise to the reality you experience and at the same time draws it back into itself so that it can psychically begin again. So in other words, the great attractive was the Big Bang? In a sense, yes. All right, and... Although this is again only relative from one particular point of view, but yes, it will do as an analogy. Well, it was the big thing?

gives rise, the gateway, the doorway, that gives rise to the reality you experience and at the same time draws it back into itself so that it can psychically begin again. So in other words, the great attractive was the Big Bang? In a sense, yes. All right, and... Although this is again only relative from one particular point of view, but yes, it will do as an analogy. Well, it was the big thing? bang a different point or it is its own point and again for the purposes of this conversation so that it does not become in your terms too confusing it will suffice as an analogy the great attractor was the big bang in that sense it is also the end the beginning in the end the alpha the omega it is in that sense the dimensional gate of all possible reality and you are experiencing now and what you call the big bang one slice of that in a universal constant way all right and also the idea of extinction yes okay uh extinction i mean you know when people think about it it's horrifying you know and uh well just the concept all right but you're familiar with the implicate order yes okay and uh what i've always looked at like is all with reality the way i understand it come to have known it and all is all is we we choose a certain particular road that we walk down. In some senses in general, yes, and you add some specificity to it as you walk it, yes. And there's all these probabilities and possibilities and all. Yes. And the implicate order is everything. Yes. Totality. Yes. In one particular lifetime or one universal reality. It can be looked at that way, yes. It can be looked at in a universal reality. Yes. So there is, I mean, extinction does not exist. Well, in the sense that everything exists and everything is real, it exists, but And ultimately in that sense, no. I mean, like this lifetime, the past, the present. The idea of your term extinction is usually relegated to a particular corridor of space time, and so in that sense it does exist, since it is a term specific to a particular kind of reality experience. But ultimately, no, as we have said, nothing ever really ceases to exist, but that doesn't mean that a species cannot become extinct from one particular reality domain. Yes, all right, and you're familiar with Stephen Hawking. Yes. And he talked about the concept of time flowing, what we perceive is a flow from past, present, future. Yes. All right, that continuity. Yes. All right. Now, he says maybe in certain universes or maybe in this universe, when the universe expands to its optimal point, it will start collapsing, it will start collapsing, and time will flow backwards. In a sense. Now, is that a possibility? a probability.

familiar with Stephen Hawking. Yes. And he talked about the concept of time flowing, what we perceive is a flow from past, present, future. Yes. All right, that continuity. Yes. All right. Now, he says maybe in certain universes or maybe in this universe, when the universe expands to its optimal point, it will start collapsing, it will start collapsing, and time will flow backwards. In a sense. Now, is that a possibility? a probability. It is already happening in a universe, yes. Oh, it is happening in a universe? Well, remember that everything is simultaneous. Yes. And therefore, in many ways, you are actually passing yourselves right now, forward and backward simultaneously. Time and anti-time. And that flow constantly goes back and forth, in and out. Yes, and thus is what results in the Big Bang and the greater tractor. All right, because I was swimming before when you started talking about the seven super universes and all. But again, that is simply a lot. another way of looking at the differentiations of vibrational densities within any particular time flow, no matter what direction it's moving in. Yes, I understand it. And like a particular universe being maxed out, let's say. All right. We understand. Okay. And then what they call the sleep time or the null time, which I've read from the Pleiadian material. All right, yes. And all. And now is that universe like sleep for a while? And then... It sleeps for all eternity and no time at all because that's what null time is. Okay. And then does it click back on again? Yes, in a sense, although in that sense, it is there for another universe altogether. And in that sense, not necessarily does it need to be looked at as a continuation of your own. It has its own reality, its own reason for being. And though you may perceive it as your universe going backwards, it doesn't necessarily perceive itself that way, because to itself it's its own reality with no necessary connection to the reality that you had before the null time. All right, and you do understand. I'm not talking about this particular universe. Yes. Any universe in general. Yes. All right. And in the book Future Memory, when she talks about the energy flowing through like recycling energy, the Taurus, the black hole. Yes. Recycling energy, matter energy and all, when it attracts it, comes through the white hole. Yes, we understand this idea. Okay. And is that pretty accurate? Yes. All right, that is pretty accurate then. Yes, for certain universal realities, yes. All right. Not forever universal reality, but for certain universal structures, yes. Well, that's what I'm asking you. Now, explain to me something that wouldn't be, that wouldn't apply to.

Taurus, the black hole. Yes. Recycling energy, matter energy and all, when it attracts it, comes through the white hole. Yes, we understand this idea. Okay. And is that pretty accurate? Yes. All right, that is pretty accurate then. Yes, for certain universal realities, yes. All right. Not forever universal reality, but for certain universal structures, yes. Well, that's what I'm asking you. Now, explain to me something that wouldn't be, that wouldn't apply to. The idea is that in certain universal structures, there are gateways and vortices that function as both simultaneously within themselves, feeding into themselves constantly and out of themselves constantly, so that they never experience any kind of concept of manifestation at all. Also, the flow is in and out constantly, and there is no manifestation. Correct. And that is a universe unto itself. And that would just be an energy fluctuation, more or less. Yes. That's how you would perceive it. But in what you would perceive as an energy fluctuation, perhaps a localized energy fluctuation, that is an entire universal reality experiencing a lack of manifestation. And that is an experience. Yes. All right. And now, when you're in your ship... Yes, as I am now. You are now. Right now. Okay, let's say... This is a telepathic communication coming from within a state of repose within my craft. All right. Well, wait a... Take it easy, you know. I already am. I am. In a state of repose. All right. And where are you located? Above my world. Above your world. Now, when you land on your world... Yes. Physically, you mean? Physically. Yes. Do you get out of your ship, or is your ship now your body? No. The ship is the ship. Though we have some degree now of continuity and congruency than we did before because we are evolving and we are more blended, we can still create the idea of segregation for whatever it suits us to do so. I can land the ship and get out in my body on my planet. Yes. Okay, but could you travel the way you're doing your ship using your own consciousness without using the ship? In a sense, yes, and in a sense, no, because the blending, the hybridization between myself and the ship can be so indeterminant. So in that sense we seem to be one thing. So who is to say what is the ship and what is me when I do that? that. Yeah, but, you know, in conversations you've said to people, you know... Yes, we understand, and we are approaching that point, but at this time we still recognize that there is a continuity blending in our evolutionary path. In time, we understand there will be no concept of a ship as we travel in that way, but our civilization is not at that point in the way that the serious civilization is yet. Well, the serious civilization, that's how they travel.

you've said to people, you know... Yes, we understand, and we are approaching that point, but at this time we still recognize that there is a continuity blending in our evolutionary path. In time, we understand there will be no concept of a ship as we travel in that way, but our civilization is not at that point in the way that the serious civilization is yet. Well, the serious civilization, that's how they travel. Because they are six density. And in that sense have no concept of the need for the differentiation of the material idea of needing a craft. They simply are where they are. Do you know, if you believe it, you know, you could do it. Yes. You got to believe it. Yes. We understand that. Yes, I know. But you see, that is not our intent at this time. Yes, I know. I was just playing with you. I know. But just to clarify the point, what we choose to believe right now is the experience of the of the continued differentiation to a certain extent. Not only because this serves us in our experience of our evolution, but it also serves others to understand serves others to understand us this way for the time being because many individuals on more than just your planet have the idea of the understanding of our contact as being in that presentation form that they will see a craft and see us step out of it even though many individuals like yourself will now understand that even if you see us do that you will understand that even for us at this time that is actually just a convenience of presentation and we could just as well be the craft or the craft be us or appear in a completely different way altogether. Yeah, and that leads to the question of, all right, you come down and that is not that different, that separation. You're doing it more or less for a convenience for us. Yes, although we do gain something from the experience. Okay, you do. And, you know, I understand that part of it. Now, what about a being from serious coming down and manifesting? Now, I know some of the UFOs that have been cited are exactly these type UFOs. Exactly. They are only energy presentations. They are. are the way the consciousness of that being is interpreted in the electromagnetic structure of your dimension, and you may see them as glowing lights or glowing energy or any number of nebulous or anomalous phenomenology. And when these glowing lights stopped, I mean, let's say for communication. And now we would see a particular being, that globe of light would change into a being, more Yes. This is a presentation. Like what happened at, what was it, our lady of Fatima? Yes.

is interpreted in the electromagnetic structure of your dimension, and you may see them as glowing lights or glowing energy or any number of nebulous or anomalous phenomenology. And when these glowing lights stopped, I mean, let's say for communication. And now we would see a particular being, that globe of light would change into a being, more Yes. This is a presentation. Like what happened at, what was it, our lady of Fatima? Yes. In that sense, it is a restructurizing of the frequency of the consciousness so that it mirrors to the entity something more convenient for communication purposes. Yes, so the communication can come through. And what beings were that that communicated? In what? In what? In that communication, our leader of Fatima. Again, it is an aspect of what you call the feminine principle of the world spirit. Oh, was it? ourselves talking to ourselves. The feminine principle, yes. Okay. And also, just to touch on it, you've said for years and years, hope implies despair. Yes. Although, again, understand that everything we say usually has some specific application in some specific circumstance. It isn't necessary that every single usage of that word necessarily means that someone is despairing. Yes, I know, but in the communications I've seen with you interacting in numerous sessions, and, you know, not the ones I've just been president, but other ones and all over the years and relative one now for just the last several years as hesitation implies you're not doing what excite you. You know what I'm talking about. Yes, I do. But that's your definition. Yes, of course. That might not be the person you're interacting with this. I just said that, didn't I? Yes. Yes. I know you did, but I'm just saying you do hold that into account and when people do not argue with you over it, your definition becomes their definition. Usually we pick up upon their energy and the only The only reason we would usually choose to communicate something like that is that we already realize that that's the energy they're giving off. Otherwise, we probably wouldn't say it. But you know what I'm talking about. I do. All right. However, it is unlikely that if we say it, it is not already reflective of something that they are themselves in touch with. All right. And the genetic material that has been spliced out of our, you know, for the hybrids, there are certain genes. Yes. gene pool that the hybrid that the zetas or the grays didn't want to have in the hybrids? How is this done? How was it spliced out? Were they, over time, did they reinforce positive reinforcement? Yes. Some of the early experimentations with hybridization were in your terms not successful. There were many deformities.

And the genetic material that has been spliced out of our, you know, for the hybrids, there are certain genes. Yes. gene pool that the hybrid that the zetas or the grays didn't want to have in the hybrids? How is this done? How was it spliced out? Were they, over time, did they reinforce positive reinforcement? Yes. Some of the early experimentations with hybridization were in your terms not successful. There were many deformities. And in that sense, over time, they understood how to, in your terms, fine-tune the genetic material at the same time, the process of the breeding itself, allowed them to fine-tune out some of the things that they did not desire. So they did extract some of the genetic material. Yes. They didn't like the aggressiveness from all society and all. In certain circumstances, they did not. In certain circumstances, they found it, along with other traits, to be capable of being balanced properly, and thus left it in. And, I mean, they must really be advanced to realize which genes. They are, in that sense, technologically advanced. advanced, nevertheless, it is still taken in your terms a long time because it is a complex process. All right, and just one real simple thing real quick. I was playing with simultaneous time. Just the concept. My hand, five fingers. Simultaneously, they all exist. Taken as an analogy, okay? Yes. When I count them, one, two, three, four, five, just a counting implies sequence. Yes. When, in essence, there is no sequence. There is, but you don't have to look at it that way. And when you don't, then there isn't. Remember. How is that? Remember that when you say one thing is an absolute, that's not true. There is always the reality of the other when you're using that reality, it is real. Oh, yeah, I understand what you're saying. So when you say there is no sequence, that's not true. There is a sequence. When you use a sequence, that's real. But there doesn't have to be a sequence, and when you don't use it, that's real. All right, but it all exists at once. Yes. And obviously, within the frame of time, it doesn't. Because that's just as real. as real. Okay. All right. Thanks a lot. Thank you. I appreciate it. I have a question. All right, but what happened to hello and good day? Oh, hello. Good day. Thank you. Good day. You said that we all, all of us here are more or less like the ancestors of your civilization. In general, yes. Not all of you specifically, but in general, yes. Because it is human DNA. human DNA that has been utilized in the creation of our species physically. Okay. And your ancestors of the grays are from the Zeta reticula? That is one system in that sense, yes, but also we have ancestors that are hybrids as well.

all, all of us here are more or less like the ancestors of your civilization. In general, yes. Not all of you specifically, but in general, yes. Because it is human DNA. human DNA that has been utilized in the creation of our species physically. Okay. And your ancestors of the grays are from the Zeta reticula? That is one system in that sense, yes, but also we have ancestors that are hybrids as well. We are, in a sense, in your future, and thus some of the early hybridizations are also our ancestors. Okay. I did have a question concerning why our civilization, why our world, are they genetic? Are they genetically linking with many different worlds? They are to some degree, however. The genetic material that already went into making up the human frame was already derived from some of those ancient species anyway, and therefore you are already, to some degree, compatible, which makes the genetic hybridization an easier task, whereas it might not have been possible. You are already, in other words, partly like us to begin with. That is how the human frame was created. already from a genetic alteration. And what happened to the Zeta reticuliteculi in their race? In my time frame, they no longer exist. They have all become hybrids. Was the race dying like they say they are? And what from? Because they have not the reproduction. In the sense, not the reproduction, but from the idea that they had created within themselves and inability to do so through detrimental technological means and a variety of other things. And is that the same direction? that the same direction that we as a civilization were heading at one point? Yes. And about 10 years that took a, 10 years ago that took a turn, perhaps? About 10, yes. About 10? That's what I thought. Where are we heading right now as far as technologically being too engrossed and too much of the alien technology that has gone within our governments and into what we are playing with at this moment? The idea of the alien technology that is been introduced into your military and governments will actually play very little part in the idea of what you have the capability to do to yourselves already. And you don't feel your ancestors have a lot to do with the technology that we have formed as far as a nuclear and radio activity and... No. That is your doing. I see. We were not influenced by your technology, your ancestors' technology. No. These principles were already well understood by the time your species became aware of the idea of alien technology. The resultant concepts that you call nuclear technology were simply the natural and logical end result of principles that were understood for quite some time by scientists on your planet, even though it may not have been understood by the general population. I see so.

We were not influenced by your technology, your ancestors' technology. No. These principles were already well understood by the time your species became aware of the idea of alien technology. The resultant concepts that you call nuclear technology were simply the natural and logical end result of principles that were understood for quite some time by scientists on your planet, even though it may not have been understood by the general population. I see so. Even the destructive ones of us that like to take their technology and do it, have other uses for it will not be affecting us as a mass consciousness. Repeat. Those of us that are destructive or that plan to use the technology that they have from your ancestry, the Zeta, to affect our mass consciousness of some sort, to change? There have been some utilizations of this that have caused some effects, but ultimately you will find that it will not in your terms win out. Because of the system. society and the system will change too drastically for it to be able to take a foothold in the transformations coming up. But some of this has already been used, yes. But specifically more than the idea of what you would call spaceflight technology, more the issue being applied by your society in areas called mind control. Oh, I see. We got that technology from your ancestors, then, that mind control and the frequencies. To some degree, yes. The understanding of the frequencies and the understanding of the personality construct, yes. There's that take. away some of our free will. You mean when your people use it? Yes, on us. In a sense. But in that sense, shall we say that because you structured your society in such a way to create members who would choose to do that, you already acquiesced your free will long ago to them? I see. And therefore, this is, again, just the logical result of what it is you have already done by giving your power away to someone else. And your ancestors, is it true, but like they tell us on our media and television and so forth, and so forth, that the horror stories that they have to do with extracting some of the genetic differences from us. What horror stories? Some experiments that they said that they're, like you hear abduction stories on television all the time, about these people talking in the dark and how horrible it was what they experienced. For many individuals, it is not a pleasant experience. But you must understand that the grays, as they are generally referred to, are beings that do not have the same capacity to understand emotional. understand emotionality or compassion the way you do.

stories? Some experiments that they said that they're, like you hear abduction stories on television all the time, about these people talking in the dark and how horrible it was what they experienced. For many individuals, it is not a pleasant experience. But you must understand that the grays, as they are generally referred to, are beings that do not have the same capacity to understand emotional. understand emotionality or compassion the way you do. They are, in that sense, simply not negative, but they are relatively neutral in their ability to relate to you that way, and do not really understand to a great degree the fear reaction that people are having in much the same way, that a child may not understand being taken to the doctor for its own good. I see. But you have more of a capacity or more compassion for us as a hybrid race. Because we are the balance between the two. And thus we have taken the emotion of your species and the intellectuality of their species. And in that sense, we have within ourselves the capacity for choosing only to balance and blend those things in a harmonious way, which is why we are communicating to your society now, to let you know that at least one branch of that experimentation did work out in a way that you can benefit from. I see, and we already have certain hybrid races here on parts of our isolated areas of our earth, do we not? Do we not? Not for long periods of time. Oh. They cannot exist on your world for long periods of time. But there have been, shall we say, trial runs. I see. Because ultimately there will be hybrids interacting openly with humans on your planet, as we said. What's the longest time span that are hybrids that we're experimenting with are living on our planet at this time? The most recent was for a duration of approximately three to seven years, different phases of the agenda. the agenda. This was extremely long. You will find that most of them only last a few months. Okay. All right, that's all I have to ask. I appreciate that. Thank you. We thank you. At this timing, we will once again extend to each and every one of you. Our deep appreciation in allowing us to communicate with your society in this way at this time. We thank you with unconditional love for allowing us to dream you into our reality and for dreaming us into your own so that we can together co-create a third dream reality in which we both may live. We thank you and we bid you an exciting and creative. Good day. Thank you.