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Thank you. And... You know, and then the I'm going to I'm going to be the I'm going to be the I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to I'm going and I'm you know I don't know the I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm and I'm and I'm I'm you know, I'm I'm I'm I'm you I'm I'm I'm Oh, Oh, , ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...and... ...and... ...that... ...that... ...and... ...the... ...the... Hello, everyone, and good night. We're airing slightly earlier tonight, 6 o'clock, our time here on the East Coast. And welcome to another episode of What Do You Really Want? I'm super excited about our beautiful guest we have on tonight. Mr. Daryl Anka, some of you, I'm sure most of you already heard of him and the work that he's done channeling, being a conduit for this being called Bashar, which I'll tell you a little bit more about, just after I have Amy and Chris Hale, say a quick hello to you guys. So again, welcome again to another episode. This is Tammy Onahatta and with co-host, Amy Brumcombe and Chris Hales. Guys, do you want to say a quick hello before I introduce you? Daryl Hello good evening everyone welcome we're so excited I'm thrilled that Daryl's agreed to join us because I've been wanting them on our show for a long time so it's a thrill and an honor and I'm in such gratitude that he's come to play with us tonight so I'm just thrilled and I'm excited Chris indeed hello everybody welcome to the show nice cool day down here in Melbourne Melbourne Australia and not Melbourne Florida just in case so you can say listeners jump to any conclusions I have a very I have a very strange accent for for Florida you might say but yeah really excited to have Daryl on I have spoken to Daryl in the past on a show and I have to say I'm struggling remember which particular show it was but I know we had a great time and it was was really I was really amazed at just how how difficult it was in fact in some ways to tell a difference between Daryl and Bishar's knowledge was really really good we had a great time so looking forward to that got lots of questions and things to talk about and I have to say that one of the things that's still on my personal agenda for this lifetime on my bucket list is coffee with Basha somewhere in some rest of the universe somewhere not that I think Basha drinks coffee but I'm sure that some mutual experience could be a In fact, that's probably one of the questions. The galactic version of coffee. The galactic version of going to a coffee shop. Light coffee. So yeah, welcome everybody to today's conversation, looking forward to it.

on my personal agenda for this lifetime on my bucket list is coffee with Basha somewhere in some rest of the universe somewhere not that I think Basha drinks coffee but I'm sure that some mutual experience could be a In fact, that's probably one of the questions. The galactic version of coffee. The galactic version of going to a coffee shop. Light coffee. So yeah, welcome everybody to today's conversation, looking forward to it. Wow, so again, we're so grateful to have Daryl on. And again, most of you that listen to our show, you know, you know, expressed your excitement about tonight's show, and we're so great. and so excited. I can't, I'm tripping over my words, as usual. But I'll tell you a little bit for those of you who may be tuning in for the first time, a little bit about Daryl. For almost 30 years, individuals from all over the globe have made the journey to see the renowned channel, Darryl Inka, as he brings through the remarkable interdimensional being from the future known as Bashar. And along with Edgar K. Seth and Abraham Hicks, the Bashar material has been heralded as some of the most relevant, compelling, and dynamic information delivered to the planet to date. In addition to channeling Bashar, Daryl expresses his creative talents in the form of writing, directing, and producing films through his own production company called Zia Films. As a writer, Darrell has produced a feature film with new image entertainment, one script optioned by AMI Productions, and one script optioned by the Mutual Film Group. Two of Darrell's scripts, Ark and Alienated, made the top 10 finalist list in the story prose screenplay contest with Alienated going on to win second place in the comedy genre category. Daryl is in post-production with a feature film he wrote, produced, and directed, entitled Darily Departed. Dairly Departed started with a simple question, what if? What if we could take a camera into the afterlife and find out what happens after we die? Do we meet friends or family who have passed on before us? What about the loved ones we left behind? And just to tell you a little bit, about Bashar, and even before I do that, Dar will be talking a bit about upcoming events that he has actually in the projects that he's been working on specifically. I know that there's a documentary that he was telling a little bit to us before the show tonight, so we'll let him get into that. But about Bashar, I'll just tell you a little bit, who is Bashar? Bashar is a being of extraterrestrial. origin guys. No joke. Seriously. I mean, yeah, a friend from the future who has spoken for the past 30 years through Channel Darrell, bringing through a wave of new information that clearly explains in detail how the universe works and how each person creates the reality the experience.

so we'll let him get into that. But about Bashar, I'll just tell you a little bit, who is Bashar? Bashar is a being of extraterrestrial. origin guys. No joke. Seriously. I mean, yeah, a friend from the future who has spoken for the past 30 years through Channel Darrell, bringing through a wave of new information that clearly explains in detail how the universe works and how each person creates the reality the experience. Over the years, thousands of individuals have had the opportunity to apply these principles and see if they really work to change their lives and create their reality. and listen, it has work because I personally have done the movie screen, um, talk that Darrell, you know, it was like a six-minute video on, you know, seeing the movie go forward and backwards, and I was having trouble with, um, my mortgage being reinstated, and I did exactly, um, you know, how he described it, and literally I did it in, in less than like 30 seconds in my mind, boom, called and got the exact result, exactly how I saw it. So, I'm so excited about tonight, guys. I'll be giving you all his web details later so that you can connect with Bashar, but I will speak no more. Daryl, welcome to What Do You Really Want? We're so happy to have you. Well, I'm very happy to be here. Thank you so much for your kind invitation to join the show. Oh, my gosh. Absolutely. And we know that you've been super busy, and can you tell us a little bit about what you're working on at the moment? Well, let me, let me give you a little bit of an updated information. I think some of what you read there about some of the film stuff might be a little out of date. Deerly Departed has been done for a while. It's already in distribution online through GuyMT, Amazon, and available as a DVD on our Ziafilms.com website. The film works. actually in post-production on now is the Bashar documentary called First Contact. And that will be completed by mid-May, and then we'll start submitting that to film festivals. You know, and we're working on a number of other projects simultaneously as a production company. Now, Darrell, you think it's extremely exciting, actually, because it raised an immediate for me, but I wanted to preface it just by just by reminding the viewers, I'll get where next to the microphone, actually, reminding the listeners that the Basha material, the relationship with Basha has traveled alongside Daryl's activities in the film industry. And it's actually a really amazing match because obviously it's enabled you to progress into producing and directing your own material both with Bishar and in. in other projects, which is quite an amazing journey, actually. Yeah.

to preface it just by just by reminding the viewers, I'll get where next to the microphone, actually, reminding the listeners that the Basha material, the relationship with Basha has traveled alongside Daryl's activities in the film industry. And it's actually a really amazing match because obviously it's enabled you to progress into producing and directing your own material both with Bishar and in. in other projects, which is quite an amazing journey, actually. Yeah. But the popped up about even the phrase, first contact, what do you think history will say about what do you think history will say about what the first contact really was? Because there's actually now been so much channeling, so many, so many interactions. We don't have to go down the abduction discussion, but there's been many benevolent interactions as well. What do you think history will record? as first contact because you've got an enormous library of a direct interaction with a physical being on a ship that's actually in orbit around the planet, which is actually quite unique amongst channelers. Yeah. I'm sure that in general, at least at first, first contact will probably be gauged from when the general public experiences actual physical open contact with an extraterrestrial society. Now, after that happens, based on whatever information they share with us about earlier forms of contact, we may then be able to be given information that will trace back to the fact that they may have actually been in contact with us in a variety of ways that most people were unaware of quite some time. But that probably will come after. have physical open contact that the general public would acknowledge as the moment of actual contact. Yeah, there's going to be a lot of events which take place, which the general public will point to and say, well, it changed there from their perception. But when they learn more about the history of that event, because none of these events just happen completely out of the blue, there's always a buildup in a history. they'll eventually realize that things were going on and have been going on for a really long time. Yeah, and I think it's kind of, in a weird way, it's one of the biggest secrets that everybody knows. Yeah, it's getting a bit silly, actually. Nobody really talks about it, but I think a lot of people that have any awareness that this is happening know that it's been happening for quite some time. And, you know, according to Bashar, the buildup is important. The preparation period is important so that whatever it is, people get out of what's coming through in this preparation period, actually has a lot to do with when open public contact will occur. So, yes, you're right. If not just happen out of the blue, all of this preliminary information is part of the overall process of contact from Bashar's point of view.

time. And, you know, according to Bashar, the buildup is important. The preparation period is important so that whatever it is, people get out of what's coming through in this preparation period, actually has a lot to do with when open public contact will occur. So, yes, you're right. If not just happen out of the blue, all of this preliminary information is part of the overall process of contact from Bashar's point of view. This is sort of the way they do it. They allow people to absorb ideas and concepts. that they're familiar with, and the rate at which we decide to accept that information and apply that information in our reality gives them a measurement of when we're actually ready for more conscious awareness of their existence, but they're not going to do it in a manner that would overwhelm or intervene or interfere with our own natural process of choosing what we prefer to have in our own society. So they're very hands-off, they're very arm's length. until such time as they feel that we can kind of meet them halfway and that we're not going to, you know, give away our power to them or, you know, put them on a pedestal or anything like that. They really want to meet us as equals, and whatever time that takes is kind of in our hands in terms of how fast or how slow we decide to absorb the concepts that they're sharing with us. Do you think that will happen individually or more collectively? Well, it is happening on an individual basis, and I think that's part of it. Eventually, I think there'll be enough momentum to the individual contacts that it will cross a threshold. You know, there'll be a tipping point, and at that point there can actually be a larger scale open contact that most people can acknowledge has actually occurred. But, of course, individual contacts are going on and have been going on for quite some time here and there around the planet. The buildup of information, from my perspective, in the circumstances we find ourselves in this collective on this planet at the point, much of the need for that really long, slow buildup is to keep the fear factor out of first contact. Yes. The far greatest degree possible, just to make sure that it goes. very smoothly for everybody. It's not even necessarily, as Bishar has explained it, not necessarily even a fear of them, but their energy exists on a much higher frequency than ours does, at least the extraterrestrials I'm referring to. And when you bring a higher energy into contact with a race such as ours that compartmentalizes a lot of their consciousness and does actually have a lot of fear-based, beliefs, exposure to that higher frequency can actually force our own fears to the surface before we may be ready to integrate them.

fear of them, but their energy exists on a much higher frequency than ours does, at least the extraterrestrials I'm referring to. And when you bring a higher energy into contact with a race such as ours that compartmentalizes a lot of their consciousness and does actually have a lot of fear-based, beliefs, exposure to that higher frequency can actually force our own fears to the surface before we may be ready to integrate them. So the fears that we may actually be feeling in their presence are actually fears that we have within ourselves that probably have very little to do with them. And that's what they're also attempting to avoid is to, they don't want to push us before we're ready to integrate those issues within ourselves and function more holistically within our own being and become a better match, so to speak, for other beings that may already be functioning in a much integrated way. Yeah, the collective is so mixed in its level of knowledge and in its literally in its vibration that it's, do I actually use technology to judge when they're looking at, when they're looking at us as a collective and at our, if you like, our level of development, they actually use technology to inspect the energetics of the collective to work out, you know, roughly where we're at in terms of positivity, fear around any particular subject, or is it actually done psychically? I think it's a combination in the reality. In other words, they've evolved to a point where it's very difficult to separate their innate abilities in their consciousness from what they would express. as a technology. For example, Bashar's explained that, you know, while they still have spacecraft, their spacecraft are self-aware. So, in many cases, the artificial intelligence are what we would refer to as the artificially intelligent computers that run their ships are actually physicalized manifestations of their own higher minds. So there's a real. gray area there, a real blurred board between what they consider to be an aspect of their consciousness and what they consider to be an expression of technology. To them, there's not as much difference as there is to us at this point in their evolution. I find that a really exciting thing, actually. It's really amazing to hear. I could dive deep into that subject. Yeah. Yeah. What I wanted to ask you was related to a conversation we had a couple of weeks back where we had a channel on the show who brings through a being called Ashtar. And we actually asked Ashtar what conditions needed to be on the ground before they would, you know, literally come forward and introduce themselves. And his reply was very simple, you know, it was a matter of permission. And permissions based on, you know, are enough people in the collective consciously aware of the whole situation surrounding, you know, living beings not on earth's floor.

on the show who brings through a being called Ashtar. And we actually asked Ashtar what conditions needed to be on the ground before they would, you know, literally come forward and introduce themselves. And his reply was very simple, you know, it was a matter of permission. And permissions based on, you know, are enough people in the collective consciously aware of the whole situation surrounding, you know, living beings not on earth's floor. and, you know, are they ready to literally welcome them as equals, as you said? And it's a matter of, from my perspective, because it's a subject on a very interesting thing, it's a matter of sovereignty. It's a matter of us expressing, I think Bashar said this in one of his videos that I was reviewing yesterday that we be our government, that we individually need to literally resume our authority, was the way I interpreted what he was saying. Because at the moment, we have 250-odd governments on this planet. Most of them are corporations. Most of them are under the influence of, you know, organizations that we're not specifically aware of, that are playing lots of games politically to make the whole place look like it's 250 separate nations. So there's a lot of manipulation, confusion, and complexity around the whole issue of who is it that actually could give permission for them to come here? and until that's cleared away, and now we really are operating more as a unified collective, I don't see the big arrival occurring till then. Yet, I do note that Bashar has been saying that 2016 seems... No, no, no, no, no. Let me phrase this carefully. He has said that fall 2016 has potential for great shift. He has said that a lot of things will change in the fall of 2016. He's not. necessarily referring to contact. I realize that, but what I'm saying is that there's a sudden consciousness shift, which allows that to start moving forward really rapidly. Yes, there's many, yeah, many factors are many, many threshold crossings that can accelerate that idea. The window that he has given for open contact has usually been somewhere between 20, 25 and 2033. Which I would be comfortable with, because you can't rush 7 billion people into this. Not without creating a mess. No. I'm not comfortable with that. Yeah, here's the other thing. Not all 7 billion may be aware of it. Even at the time? Even at the time. In other words, if we are really creating our realities and we are vibrating at different frequencies, open contact could occur publicly for many people. It doesn't mean that all the people would even be aware of it if they're not on that frequency domain. They may not know what's happening.

with that. Yeah, here's the other thing. Not all 7 billion may be aware of it. Even at the time? Even at the time. In other words, if we are really creating our realities and we are vibrating at different frequencies, open contact could occur publicly for many people. It doesn't mean that all the people would even be aware of it if they're not on that frequency domain. They may not know what's happening. that's interesting that's where it gets really interesting Tammy I can feel a question coming from you for sure yeah I'll hold it for now I'm in thought process Amy Tammy's an absorption you're taking it all in like yeah Amy did you want to jump in on the issue of individual realities because I know that's a big one for you It's huge to do realities in creation and, you know, how we're actually pulling in reality here and creation here. It's a huge concept for me. You know, I don't know if you know the Sherbert, we, and Daryl, Tammy and I have studied quantum hypnosis healing, Dolores Cannon process. And so we're doing the work and what we're discovering is so amazing. What's coming out of people is just profoundly amazing. You know, their life, their past lives, you know, where they've been, their planets. So it's sort of, It goes in alignment with a lot of the work that you do in the documentaries and the deeply relating to it. And so it is about, and we, I've been asking in our session, what about reality? How do we really create it? It's really getting created. What's interesting is someone was on last week who also does the work. And she was told by our higher self that you have to get the earth out of people. That's the expression they had used, did the earth out of people. And it goes back to what you said about our own fears, how deep they are, how in ourselves and our bodies and our minds and they're running through us and you have to really start to clean them out. Yeah, it's all about based on what Bashar is talking about, you know, it's all about the fact that we've been raised to believe in certain definitions as being true about ourselves, about reality. And a major part of his transmissions, if you will, his information, is about getting in touch with those definitions that are out of phase with our true cells, getting in touch with those definitions that we've been holding on to for hundreds, if not thousands of years, that really are outdated and streamlining them, clarifying them, and bringing those definitions, for lack of a better term, into the 21st century, instead of holding onto ones that are more or less medieval.

if you will, his information, is about getting in touch with those definitions that are out of phase with our true cells, getting in touch with those definitions that we've been holding on to for hundreds, if not thousands of years, that really are outdated and streamlining them, clarifying them, and bringing those definitions, for lack of a better term, into the 21st century, instead of holding onto ones that are more or less medieval. So the idea is that in clarifying those definitions, we gain a much better understanding of the nature of existence, the nature of how we create our reality experiences, and by clarifying those definitions, we clarify the process and we become much more conscious of how we can create the realities that we prefer, as opposed to unconsciously creating the ones that we don't. Yeah, and that's what I'm in, that's why Chris mentioned, because that's really sort of where I'm at now. And the more I find that, I clean out, the more of that stuff layers to me, so it would be like the person's lying the front. Right. And you can't get there in an awareness when you're holding all of that density. It doesn't seem to work. It doesn't. You do have to sort of become lighter, clean it out. Yeah. And that's what we're just talking. Yeah, I mean, it's like anything. Yeah, it's like anything. You know, if you've got an attic full of clutter, you know, you're not going to be able to do much with the space. But when you clean it out, you know, then you, you know, then you, you, you can convert that room into something usable, you know. That's a great analogy. Yeah, the other thing that immediately comes up when you were talking before for me was the definition of truth. If we're all occupied different realities, and the reality is that to one extent or another, we've always done that. It's just that we've been really bogged down by belief systems that have been suggested very, very, very strongly to us for a really long period of time. So they're accepted on a very, very wide scale. So we're projecting a very similar reality. Yet, in fact, so it's not that we, this is my understanding, it's not that we really haven't been creating our own reality. It's just the differences between my reality and my neighbor's reality become really obvious to us because we're going to actually find them far more responsive to our individual, if you like, choices that we make in each moment. It's for the point where I'll really notice that my neighbors just chosen to be 8 foot 6 instead of his previous 5 foot 10. If it's relevant for you to experience that in your reality, then yes, you could. It's really, as Bashar often says, it doesn't come down to really an issue of what's possible.

find them far more responsive to our individual, if you like, choices that we make in each moment. It's for the point where I'll really notice that my neighbors just chosen to be 8 foot 6 instead of his previous 5 foot 10. If it's relevant for you to experience that in your reality, then yes, you could. It's really, as Bashar often says, it doesn't come down to really an issue of what's possible. It comes down to an issue of what's relevant. So anything is possible. But if it's not really relevant for the path you chose, then it's it's unlikely that you will manifest that experience. But when you do start choosing things that are starting to be more unlike what someone else might choose, then it's quite possible that you will no longer experience them in your reality or that they will experience you in their reality. Now, if I'm living next door to somebody and that process is taking place, would it simply be like the house next door is empty? It can be that abrupt, or it will simply manifest in a way that makes more sense to your space-time understanding, which may mean the neighbor will move out or something else will happen that will remove your reality. It's not impossible that they could just one day no longer be there. More likely right now, we'll manufacture the reality to fit the way in which we think reality must unfold, and that'll usually involve some understandable process, like oh, they just got called to a job in China, so they're going to leave tomorrow. So the reality will be, if you like, malleable to the point where it won't create major cognitive dissonance for you. Correct. Although I did have an experience once. Sorry, Tammy. Was that? Yeah, just a quick question before this slips away. Would you still then have conscious memory? of, let's say, the neighbor, or is that something that just completely, like, skips out? Well, again, it depends upon the circumstance. I'm not saying that you can't arrive at a place in your own state of being where the neighbor couldn't suddenly just disappear. If you're not going to experience negative, cognitive dissonance about that, then it's quite possible that you might experience it that abruptly. And, you know, it's... just going to be relevant to where it is you need to experience as a process. So you have to kind of take it on a case-by-case basis as to what makes the most sense for your belief system at the time. But people do experience a lot of things starting to happen that do seem to be a little bit more, I'll use the word magical, because as you increase your vibration, as you expand your awareness of the way reality is created, you start accepting. the fact that things can change in the blink of an eye as being more normal.

as to what makes the most sense for your belief system at the time. But people do experience a lot of things starting to happen that do seem to be a little bit more, I'll use the word magical, because as you increase your vibration, as you expand your awareness of the way reality is created, you start accepting. the fact that things can change in the blink of an eye as being more normal. And so you are going to experience over time more flexibility, malleability in space and time, and things will start to happen in a way that might have seemed very odd, that might have even made people in the past question their sanity. But I think it's going to become par for the course that you will start experiencing more abrupt changes in much more abrupt ways and that that that's simply going to be. come normal in time, eventually. I don't know why this makes me so giddy. Like, giddy, like, I can't stop giggling. Like, I don't know why. But I'm like, while you're talking, I'm like, oh, my God, I just love this. Yeah, it's awesome. So giddy. Awesome. I have two things just to, that relate directly to what you're saying. Two experiences. One was a dream experience where I was standing in an open space looking upwards. And what I was looking at was looking at was. a sailing ship sailing across the sky, but it was upside down. It was like I was in a helicopter looking down the mast of a sailing ship from above, but I was on the ground looking upwards at this thing. And what I had a knowing of at the time, and I was so startled by this, I still remember the dream really clearly, was that there was a ship in the sky that was so multidimensional that my mind couldn't process it. So it was showing me something that it could process. Right. I have a feeling that's what things may happen as we, as this experience becomes stronger. As people move further apart. Because that was a pretty weird and I've had it since. I've had it more than once. And I think it was just my mind trying to give me something I could actually grip on. Yeah, possibly. I mean, obviously there are many different kinds of reasons for what we call dreams. But I do believe that some of them are our minds. attempt to explain in symbols that it understands things that sometimes do actually occur outside of our dimension of reality. And if it doesn't really have symbols it can use to represent what really has, we'll oftentimes use whatever symbols are at hand to represent something that it simply can't explain in normal terms. So it could very well be a physical mind interpretation. of a higher dimensional experience that actually you were having. That was definitely the feeling that I got.

understands things that sometimes do actually occur outside of our dimension of reality. And if it doesn't really have symbols it can use to represent what really has, we'll oftentimes use whatever symbols are at hand to represent something that it simply can't explain in normal terms. So it could very well be a physical mind interpretation. of a higher dimensional experience that actually you were having. That was definitely the feeling that I got. In fact, it's the only way I can explain what I saw, really, to my logical mind. And the other experience was physical where I was actually leaving my house one day and spotted a chem trail in it. This was a dead, clear blue sky. We have the most amazing clear blue skies down here, horizon to horizon, really deep blue. With a chem trail plane starting to spray right up the middle of it, which made me really mad. And I made a very, shall we say, positive assertion that I did not want that thing in my reality. Got in my car, drove to the supermarket, got out of my car, looked up, and it was gone. That was clear blue sky again. No plane, no chem trail. That was about 18 months ago. And I just thought, I was left standing in the car park, you know, mouth agape, people looking at me and reaching for my phone to, you know, call a friend and say, holy crap, guess what just happened. Because it just wasn't there. It was completely gone. There was no sign of it at all. So, and that was, gee, that was about two years ago now. So I think I've already had a physical experience of that kind, which was awesome at the time. I've seen quite a few since, and I haven't managed to reproduce that, unfortunately. But it happened. Well, let me ask you a very practical question, if I may. Are you sure it was a chem trail and not just a regular condensation trail? Yeah, it was because I've been observing them for a long time. It was one of those, well, look, when I say it was gone, if it was an ordinary plane, it would still have been in the sky because it was only about a third of the way across the sky, and I only drove for a couple of minutes. I would have seen the aircraft, but there was nothing. Right. Not a thing. It was back to a clear blue sky from horizon to horizon. Well, you may have shifted then. I may have shifted. Yeah, this is the thing that Bashar explains is actually happening all the time. He's basically saying. You know, what we call time is actually a side effect of the fact that our consciousness is shifting through billions of parallel realities a second. And so it's not about us having to learn to shift.

was back to a clear blue sky from horizon to horizon. Well, you may have shifted then. I may have shifted. Yeah, this is the thing that Bashar explains is actually happening all the time. He's basically saying. You know, what we call time is actually a side effect of the fact that our consciousness is shifting through billions of parallel realities a second. And so it's not about us having to learn to shift. It's about us having to become more aware of the fact that we're already shifting all the time and then more consciously choosing what version of reality to shift to. So if you managed in that moment to unlock yourself from any particular assumption about what path your shifting had to take, then you may have shifted in a direction that allowed you to experience a greater difference between the reality that you were in one moment and the reality you were in the next moment, which revealed to you how fast we're actually shifting all the time. it's just that we create that I got to show up that whole thing I got to yeah yeah that gets directly back to some of the earliest teachings I saw of Bashar which I think is somewhere back in the 90s where he was explaining the moment of now and the fact that you know we experience what we think is a continuous stream of time but what we're experiencing is now now but billions of times per second exactly and which makes logical sense to me because physical matter has to you know the physical environment that we're living in I'll call it holographic we're living in has to shift between frames there has to be a space between frames for things to change and what what's this called discontinuity yeah yeah and one of the things that's come to me over the last year or so is that in that space in between the physical appearance of reality I'm starting to feel that that's where our consciousness entangles with matter such that we can choose what physical reality will be when it next actually manifest in the next moment of now where it springs back into you know physical existence exactly because if space and time according to quantum physicists is truly discontinuous then there's no way to explain the experience we have of continuity unless those discontinuous moments are embedded in some kind of higher dimensional field of consciousness that creates the experience of continuity between moments that actually have nothing at all to do with one another and no connection at all that's there's a a higher dimensional projector that's facilitating this experience if you like Yeah I think I think one time Bashar sort of was making a little bit of an analogy and a joke out of it and he was saying this is sort of rice pudding theory physical reality where you have the little grains of rice that

actually have nothing at all to do with one another and no connection at all that's there's a a higher dimensional projector that's facilitating this experience if you like Yeah I think I think one time Bashar sort of was making a little bit of an analogy and a joke out of it and he was saying this is sort of rice pudding theory physical reality where you have the little grains of rice that are not connected to each other but they're all embedded in the pudding and that's what connects them and makes them all one thing so it's a similar idea that you have these these frames these moments that are unto themselves an entire frozen reality but the thing that makes them seem connected is the consciousness that exists well over and above and in between those moments and gives us our sense of movement change continuity growth expansion process uh what have you but without that there would actually be no connection between those moments it would just be individual grains of rice yeah yeah that's all really can i can i just share that two hours ago i ate rice pudding again literally and you know i'm never going to look at my rice pudding the same ever again ever looking at rice pudding is like looking at the entirety of creation see i just ate the entire creation two hours again you did i hope it was good it brings also brings back to back to thought the the effect of the aggregate consciousness versus the individual consciousness in what we will experience you know once we get to the point where we're really manifesting our reality moment by moment you like you know and so that the now now now really becomes choice choice and we have the potential to manifest a uniquely individual reality around us in some way and obviously the boundary effects all and agreements will be an interesting thing but I presume that as an aggregate as a collective we will also have have free will choice to manifest as a collective whatever we decide to do well that's actually the thing that most people sort of misunderstand about the idea of working as a collective as bachar has explained a collective is not when individuals become homogenous and indistinguishable a true harmonious collective happens when every single individual is validated fully for the differences that they express because then they become like i absolutely love yeah unity and diversity the analogy the analogy is like a puzzle where you have individual pieces and every piece is a slightly different shape well the only way that that that entire puzzle picture comes together is if every single piece stays the shape it was made to be so that it fits with every other piece perfectly but when you try to change that shape into something that it's not it no longer fits and the whole picture can't be

analogy is like a puzzle where you have individual pieces and every piece is a slightly different shape well the only way that that that entire puzzle picture comes together is if every single piece stays the shape it was made to be so that it fits with every other piece perfectly but when you try to change that shape into something that it's not it no longer fits and the whole picture can't be created so when we start validating every individual for the shape the piece that they actually are and when individuals start validating themselves for that then we will automatically fit with every other piece and we'll see the big picture that we all come together to form and then the big picture can support all the pieces in the same way the pieces create the big picture. And Darrell, what does what did Bashar have... Oh. Are you going here? I spoke up with other guys. So, okay. No, I wish it's just, what does that look like? I mean, has Bashar described what that would look like each person validating, you know, in, in, I guess, practical 3D terms where people can understand what that kind of looks like. Because I think that, you know, I understand that I get it, but for those who are listening, you know, out of curiosity, what would that look like, you know? It looks like what he's described their civilization to be, which means every single thing that happens and every single thing an individual finds themselves doing in every single situation that come up happens in perfect synchronicity, in perfect timing. people just wind up where they need to be, when they need to be there, interacting exactly with whom they need to interact, doing exactly what they need to do in absolute synchronicity with no forethought, no planning, it all just unfolds completely automatically. Oh, my God. And is that something that will sort of start to happen, or is that something that exists within the parameters of like really us making that shift into another? other dimensional consciousness? It is starting to happen, which is why people are experiencing more and more synchronicity. It can increase, and the more that you raise your own frequency, the more you will experience that. And eventually, I believe, our civilization will mirror that to a great degree and maybe even match that idea. I'm not sure how long that will take to get to the level that Bishar's people are at. But certainly we can express a lot. large percentage of that within our lifetimes should we choose to? One of the ways I have a feeling that will, one of the mechanisms of evolution, if you like, that will emerge as we go through this process is, and I think it'll actually reflect in our financial system quite quickly, is valuing people's time as being equal.

get to the level that Bishar's people are at. But certainly we can express a lot. large percentage of that within our lifetimes should we choose to? One of the ways I have a feeling that will, one of the mechanisms of evolution, if you like, that will emerge as we go through this process is, and I think it'll actually reflect in our financial system quite quickly, is valuing people's time as being equal. and celebrating those who are working in their passion in service to others. Passion is what it's really all about, because as Bishar has explained many times, and as I've experienced personally when I apply this in my life, and a lot of other people have too, and I'm sure all of you have, passion and excitement and joy, are our body's physical translation of the voice of the vibrational frequency of energy that actually represents our true nature, our true selves. And when we are willing to act on the things that contain the most amount of passion or that energy, that frequency, that's when we are most aligned, most in harmony with our true being and when life can actually become ecstatic and effortless. So the more people that do that, the more people that do that, the more we we can see a reality in general that reflects that, not just on an individual level, but on a collective level as well. I've been exploring some of the aspects of the Law of One for some time now. One of the phrases that keeps coming up is, I think it's a direct description of what you just said, which, because I haven't actually heard Basha say that, because there's a lot of stuff that Bishar's said that I probably haven't heard yet because it's over so many bits and pieces. However, the fact that his civilization consider that a being in their passion and in their joy are a physical representation of their true frequency and their true self, the phrase that comes up to me from the law of one material is that when everyone is when everyone is allowed to return to their frequency, all will be in peace and harmony. same thing same thing yeah so thank you for that that's a really valuable piece of of the puzzle for me personally so that's that's really amazing can it may I may I ask a question this is Amy Jamie jump in any time you want to Amy thank you so my question is you Darrell as the being here and you've been in touch with Sharper such a long time and such a great relationship between it and you noticed sort of in the last year two years or even you know, six months, that things are really starting to see that they're changing. Oh, absolutely.

I ask a question this is Amy Jamie jump in any time you want to Amy thank you so my question is you Darrell as the being here and you've been in touch with Sharper such a long time and such a great relationship between it and you noticed sort of in the last year two years or even you know, six months, that things are really starting to see that they're changing. Oh, absolutely. I mean, it's the synchronicity that can occur now after applying this kind of information for a while, I'm just going to say, sometimes the synchronicity is ridiculous. I mean, it almost makes you feel like you're stepping outside of reality altogether. I'll give you an example that happened a few weeks ago, and I'm not going to mention name. but we're in the process of doing this documentary about my channeling and about Bashar, and we're in the process of looking for someone to narrate the documentary that has a little bit of a recognizable name to the public. And we thought of several people. One of them sort of stood out that I was particularly attracted to to have. And we made an offer to this person's agent one day, and the next day, a friend said that they wanted to have lunch. And they asked us if we could meet at a restaurant that we hardly ever go to. And the first person I ran into when I walked through the door was the person I had just made an offer to. And I was able to actually speak with them and explain what we were doing. And it's those kinds of synchronicities where you just put it out there, you don't think any more about it, but within relatively short order, it had a manifestation of something like that that in a city of 7 million people would almost never occur. And then yet it occurred literally the day after we thought of this person and actually took some action in the direction of contacting this person. And there they were. standing right before me, big is life. So I'm getting more and more and more and more of that, where life is truly becoming very magical. And it seems like a lot of the interim processes that might have been necessary in the past are no longer necessary. And connections just happen very quickly. But, you know, that's very interesting because if I'll share a little story. Last week I was doing something on Facebook. And someone I went to high school with the photo which I showed up, and I have not seen this person or thought of this person in probably 20 years. And I said to myself, oops, now that I just seen this photo and thought of him, he's going to appear soon. And I know he is. And I don't even know where they live, right?

story. Last week I was doing something on Facebook. And someone I went to high school with the photo which I showed up, and I have not seen this person or thought of this person in probably 20 years. And I said to myself, oops, now that I just seen this photo and thought of him, he's going to appear soon. And I know he is. And I don't even know where they live, right? And all of a sudden, I'm in the grocery store yesterday, like 7 a.m., right, of course, in my pajamas, right, in the grocery store. And all of a sudden, he's like, junior men. So that's what they used to call me, because I'm little. And he's like, I'm like, oh, my God. And I go, and I was not surprised. I actually had expected, because I just said he's going to show up. This happened yesterday. So it's funny that you said that. Right. See, in physical reality, synchronicity is physical realities or space time's way. It's the best way space time has of demonstrating that everything is actually all one is everything is actually all connected. And it has to play out in some sense of space time because that's where we're focused. But it can be highly accelerated. And I think it gets more and more accelerated, more expansive, more expansive our consciousness gets. Because then we're starting to see less and less differences between things, less and less barriers between things. And when all of that starts to dissolve, then things start happening almost more all at once, which is the way they actually exist in creation. Because everything exists now, everything exists all at once. So the more we expand, the last. less time and space we experience, and the more we start to experience in whatever way we we can, that everything is actually happening all at once. And we don't have to go through all the processes that we'd have to go through. Like you said, for him to come on, you would have had to go through a lot of other processes, a lot of other, you know, interaction. Now, we may have, we can remain. And it's a lot of work. We may retain a lot of work here in time. We may retain some processes, because some processes may be what we want to experience. But we can certainly. let go of a lot of processes that ultimately we no longer need. Yeah, letting go has been a big subject for us this past year. Temit Tach and Ame have become absolute masters of emotional processing. And in fact, they have kind of a buddy system going of reflecting emotional triggers to one another so that they can help each other process, the emotional triggers. And letting go of...

experience. But we can certainly. let go of a lot of processes that ultimately we no longer need. Yeah, letting go has been a big subject for us this past year. Temit Tach and Ame have become absolute masters of emotional processing. And in fact, they have kind of a buddy system going of reflecting emotional triggers to one another so that they can help each other process, the emotional triggers. And letting go of... of energies of past experiences as they come up and try to, you know, become part of it now, has been a really, really, you know, important part of that and letting go of all that stuff. Yeah, it's crucial. It's crucial. That's why Bashar is so focused in his messages on getting in touch consciously with those definitions that hold us back and clearing them out. Because until we become conscious of those things, things. We have nothing to work with. But if we're willing and not afraid to find out what those belief systems are, we can process these things very, very rapidly. Well, I'm sure that Tammy will have something to say about that. That's what's occurred. What she's brought forward this year onto this show is the things that happened when she went down the path of consciously evolving her emotional processing. and finding that having emotional experiences and being able to process them and let them go almost on the spot. Right. I don't necessarily want to speak for Tammy. Tell me, if you want to jump in and talk about that at all, please do. But it seems to be an absolute key to being able to stay in the moment. Well, yeah. I mean, if you start to understand that emotions are your signals as to what's going on within the deeper belief system, then you can use emotions to find out what those beliefs are. I mean, just because a fear might come up doesn't mean that that experience is a negative thing. It may be pointing to a negative belief within you that's generating the fear, but you use the fear positively and treat it as a messenger knocking on your door saying, hey, there's a belief here that I'm bringing your attention to that you didn't know anything about, that you didn't know anything about, that you want to let go of, then instead of wallowing in the fear or judging yourself for having the fear and adding more processing time to the whole experience, you can just simply say, thank you, fear, for bringing that to my attention. I really appreciate that. You've done your job well. Now I can be on about the business of simply understanding what that belief is that generated you, and since I'm now using the fear for the purposes. it's there, you no longer experience it as fear because fear has done its job.

and adding more processing time to the whole experience, you can just simply say, thank you, fear, for bringing that to my attention. I really appreciate that. You've done your job well. Now I can be on about the business of simply understanding what that belief is that generated you, and since I'm now using the fear for the purposes. it's there, you no longer experience it as fear because fear has done its job. And if it's done its job and delivered its message and you allow it to do so, it doesn't need to stick around. Now you become curious about what the belief is. And it turns into curiosity and investigation. And it turns into freedom when you find out what the belief was that was holding you back that you were afraid of and finally realized that there's no reason to hold on to it anymore and let it go, then you've used the process very quickly. And you've used the emotion for the reason, in a sense, it was designed, which is just to bring your attention to things within you that you don't prefer to have. There's a lot of... This is a beautiful way to put that. Because we had a guest on a couple weeks ago, and she has been channeling Mary Magdalene, and this is exactly the message that she was coming forth. It's about using the emotion, not the mind, not the mental mind. Use the emotion. And it is a beautiful gift because it's showing you what you want to let me. go up. Well, yeah, because we don't have, yeah, the way Bashar explains the process of our psyche is, you know, there's no such thing as an emotion that is generated in a vacuum. Emotions are the result of something that you already believe to be true. So that means any emotion you have, you're always able to use it to backtrack to what the belief has to be that generated that feeling. Because if you don't have a definition for something, you don't know how to feel about it. You know, like Bashar often does this. He's, you know, he asks people in the audience sometimes. It says, you know, do you know what a brauntide is? Or do you know what a Kaniken is? You know, these are obscure English words and most people don't have a definition for them. So when they say, no, I've never heard of the word, he asks, well, how do you feel about a brauntide? And they don't know how to answer. They don't have a feeling about it because they have no definition for it. As soon as he explains that a brauntide is another way of saying distant thunder, they start to feel the emotions welling up because they have emotional associations and belief associations to the idea of thunder. But he's proven that without the definition, there is no feeling.

how do you feel about a brauntide? And they don't know how to answer. They don't have a feeling about it because they have no definition for it. As soon as he explains that a brauntide is another way of saying distant thunder, they start to feel the emotions welling up because they have emotional associations and belief associations to the idea of thunder. But he's proven that without the definition, there is no feeling. So any feeling that comes up then means you can always trace it back to a definition. And if it's not a definition you prefer, you can always let that go. That's the choice. It is always a Because we do have that free will choice. One of the things that has been a big part of my personal understanding this year is realizing, is coming to the understanding or departing from the emphasis that the journeys we're having in these bodies is of the mind and of the physical. So departing that to engage a journey of the emotions and the heart rather than the physical. in the mind was we know that the control matrix that we're playing around and at the moment is trying to keep us in the physical and in the mind because we're very controllable through ego. Yeah, but there's nothing wrong. Yeah, I mean, there's nothing wrong with the physical and there's nothing wrong with the mind. It's just a matter of making sure that all of these aspects of our being function in balance and harmony. Yeah. So than getting out of balance or overwhelming one part as opposed to to another. I mean, one of the things that Bishar said recently really kind of sent a shockwave through me when he said it. And that is, you know, in a very real way, physical reality is a dream. And he basically was reminding us, you know, for lack of a better term, spirit is our natural state. And we don't actually ever leave the circle. It's kind of an old-fashioned way of looking at physical reality to say, okay, we have a soul, we have a spirit, and the spirit realm, and it comes into the physical realm, and it comes into a body, and now we're down here, and we're physical. What he's saying is, you don't actually, as the greater being you are, you don't actually ever leave spirit. We're just dreaming that we have. We're still there. We're still in spirit right now. The greater majority of our focus is actually. there, but we're dreaming that we're not there. And that's what physical reality is. Yeah, we're having in the spirit. Yeah, because the spirit, never... Wait, wait, wait, wait. I've got to take a minute. I got to show with that one. I got to take that it. That was big. Yeah. Because that's like the reversal of how our conscious mind Exactly. Exactly.

spirit right now. The greater majority of our focus is actually. there, but we're dreaming that we're not there. And that's what physical reality is. Yeah, we're having in the spirit. Yeah, because the spirit, never... Wait, wait, wait, wait. I've got to take a minute. I got to show with that one. I got to take that it. That was big. Yeah. Because that's like the reversal of how our conscious mind Exactly. Exactly. You know, I've heard this many times that everything here is actually reversed in everything feels. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. From that, I have to reverse again my own thinking. I have to revert. Right. That's what Bashar is saying is so important about a lot of our definitions is that a lot of our definitions in physical reality are actually backwards from the way things actually are. Like, for example, we often say believing is, you know, you know, seeing is from Bashar's point of view, no, it's believing as seeing. Yeah. So a lot of our definitions. The emotions, we're trained to run away from our emotions and like we've been learned. is the emotions are a beautiful indicator to help you guide you, to guide you where you're not connecting back to yourself. And besides, there's nowhere to run to anywhere. No, none at all. Can't run away from them. You can run, but you can't hide. They're always here because there's only here and now, so there's nowhere to go. Yeah. What a question I have about. Well, don't say that, because sometimes I do go through that phase where I say, okay, that's it, I'm done. I can't take it here no more. I want to go. So that's fine, but that doesn't mean you're running away. That just means you're regulating. how you're processing things. Yeah. It doesn't have to recalibrate again. Yeah, it doesn't mean you're running away from anything. A question about Bashar's physicality. One of the pieces of information that comes up regularly in discussions of the experience that we're having on this planet is that we have very advanced emotional bodies that have a very, very broad range of potentials. for experience. Now, first of all, is that, compared to other physical beings in the universe. Now, first of all, is that statement accurate from Bashar's perspective? Because Bashar seems to have so much wisdom around the emotions, the emotional body, emotional processing, how that plays out in a physical experience, which you could only really have if you're also having that experience to one extent or another. And the other piece of information that we get is that some races around that, around us that come here don't have nearly the range of emotional potential in their experience simply because of the differences in the bodies. And just wondering where Bashar's act race stands from that physical point of view. Do they have a very prominent emotional experience in their day-to-day lives?

you're also having that experience to one extent or another. And the other piece of information that we get is that some races around that, around us that come here don't have nearly the range of emotional potential in their experience simply because of the differences in the bodies. And just wondering where Bashar's act race stands from that physical point of view. Do they have a very prominent emotional experience in their day-to-day lives? I think they have. From what I understand and what I experience in doing the channeling, I think they have a much more intensive emotional experience than we do. They just don't have negative experiences of emotions. By choice? Yes, by choice. Because they have realized at this point in their evolution that while they validate what we would typically call a negative emotional experience as being a valid experience, They've simply arrived at a point where all experiences to them are equal, and they don't judge the negative experience, which then simply allows them to choose what they prefer without invalidating what they don't prefer. So they simply consciously choose to know that they don't need to have anything else other than what we would call the positive emotional experiences because they're not afraid to have the negative ones should they be necessary. They just know at this point they're probably not necessary. Well, so they've got the full range of potentials but choosing to operate and choosing to view their experiences always from the point of view that all experience is valuable. That's the key. Exactly. And as soon as they define every experience that happens in a positive way, the only thing they and we can extract from that, regardless of how the initial situation was generated, regardless of anyone else, intention in the situation. If you give a situation a positive meaning, the only thing you can experience is a positive effect. Well, that's a lot of work. Oh, that's a lot of work. Yeah. No, actually, it's not. It's, you know, it's what we call the law of attraction. It's what, you know, they call one of their, one of their laws. It's simply what you put out is what you get back. So it's about paying attention, as we've been talking about, to what you're putting out, based on what you believe to be true, clear bring up those beliefs in such a way that what you're putting out as a choice is to simply know that no matter how anything looks, it's got to serve you in a positive way. Why? Because you said so. Yeah. Because there's nothing else in creation and contrast here. Oh, Tim, you're back in. You're actually in charge. Yeah. You know, I was asking all these questions, realizing that I was on mute. So I just had to play out. But I'd like to backtrack a little.

as a choice is to simply know that no matter how anything looks, it's got to serve you in a positive way. Why? Because you said so. Yeah. Because there's nothing else in creation and contrast here. Oh, Tim, you're back in. You're actually in charge. Yeah. You know, I was asking all these questions, realizing that I was on mute. So I just had to play out. But I'd like to backtrack a little. little bit about what you were talking about, still being in spirit and this being a dream, and sort of asking your take on this about a week ago, I heard very clearly as if someone was speaking to me telepathically, and the voice said, Tammy, so of course I paid attention. I'm like, what? I wouldn't surely be calling my own name in my own mind. And they said, when you start to understand and accept that what you see in dreams and your imagination, what you see in your imagination, is more real than what you experience here, then you will no longer be bound. Right. And it's stayed with me, so I guess I wanted to just get your take on that, because it makes sense, but I haven't really grasped it yet. Yeah. Well, again, we're focused. in physical reality for a particular experience, for a particular purpose. But it is a projection. It's a deliberate focusing of our consciousness in order to allow us to experience a certain thing that we wouldn't be able to experience in a timeless state. We have to create the illusion and the experience of space time in order to experience the process, change and growth and discovering something new about ourselves from a different perspective. Because if we're just operating in a timeless state, nothing can change. But the way that Bashar kind of referred to this idea that you've brought up is to say, you know, when you go to sleep at night in your bed and you start dreaming, he's saying that's actually when you're waking up. And when you wake up in the morning in your bed and start living your physical life, that's actually when you're going to sleep and having a dream. So again, just the opposite. our dream state is more representative of our natural state than the physical reality is. And therefore, the physical reality, in a sense, is the more limited dream. And the dream is more the expanded truth of our reality, of our nature. So, Daryl, will our experience become more dreamlike? Because that seems to be what this is all suggesting. This is what we're talking about when we say that time and space are becoming more flexible, more malleable. as if they don't really have the same solid hold on us anymore that it used to, is we're starting to wake up in the dream. We're starting to become lucid in the physical dream. And this is what Bashar's people did literally.

become more dreamlike? Because that seems to be what this is all suggesting. This is what we're talking about when we say that time and space are becoming more flexible, more malleable. as if they don't really have the same solid hold on us anymore that it used to, is we're starting to wake up in the dream. We're starting to become lucid in the physical dream. And this is what Bashar's people did literally. When they learned to have lucid dreams, that is to wake up in the dream when you're dreaming, and they realized that waking up in that dream meant they were sort of, let's just use this term, out of body. They were really themselves and they started to recognize that physical reality was just a dream. Then from the lucid dream state, they began making changes in the physical dream. And eventually, there became to them no difference between the physical dream and the lucid dream that we typically have when we go to sleep. So they are always dreaming and they are always awake. in the dream. And that's actually why they don't sleep anymore physically. Yeah. That was exactly the question forming. No sleep involved. No. Amazing. They're always lucid in the dream. They're always awake and they're always dreaming simultaneously. Wow. They blended those two ideas into one idea. I think that that is an amazing little conundrum to think about while we're taking a short break. And I'll put on a four-minute song. Is four minutes enough, Daryl? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Okay. Well, just do a four-minute song. It's a little piano piece called Reverence that I like to play when we do these things. And, yeah, look, folks, have a contemplation about what it would be to be lucidly dreaming forever because that's the suggestion because in that physical state in the ultimate physical expression of what we're talking about there's no death either so yeah I'll pop on the on the song and we'll see you guys in about four minutes I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. You know. You know, You know, You know. and you know I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm Oh I'm I'm I'm you know I'm I'm and I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm you know I'm and You know, the I'm and I'm and I'm I'm I'm I'm on on I'm And, you know, I'm going to be able to I'm going to be the same You know, I'm going to I'm I'm going to I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm the I'm You know, and I'm And so, I'm going to I'm going to I'm I'm the same and the and and I'm You know, I'm going to be the And we're back, welcome back to what do you really want. It's now here in Melbourne, exactly 11, 11 a.m. So I just thought I'd mention that.

be the same You know, I'm going to I'm I'm going to I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm the I'm You know, and I'm And so, I'm going to I'm going to I'm I'm the same and the and and I'm You know, I'm going to be the And we're back, welcome back to what do you really want. It's now here in Melbourne, exactly 11, 11 a.m. So I just thought I'd mention that. Just noticed that on screen here. And having a fantastic discussion today with Darrell Anchor. Channel of Bashar and my wonderful co-hosts Amy Brumickham and Tammy Anahata. And getting into the second hour now, just having finished the first hour on a really amazing thought about one of the potentials of our future. And I've been literally sitting here contemplating, Daryl, whether I should go outside and check the sky to see if there's any upside-down sailing ships today. You might. One day I will. I really do hope that. But look, there's a couple of things that I wanted to touch upon. And it actually involves Bashar's evolution as a communicator with this collective. If you look at the really early YouTubes, and I know you, because as a channeler, you're allowing use of your physical vessel and your mental facilities. and even I gather your memories and understandings. I think Bashar would have access to whatever he needed to work with. The degree to which he has chosen to use humor and develop his ability to, literally to banter with all comers on any level, is amazing. And if you look at the really early stuff, you can see it forming. Right. And is that something that. a path he consciously went down with you, or is it just something that's evolved as he literally kind of learned, you know, that degree, sort of that way of interacting? I think it's something that from his end was probably always his intention. And it probably involved me having to go through whatever process I needed to go through to allow more of him to come through. That is. more representative of how he always is. So the evolution is probably more mine than his. That's very interesting, actually. So it's something that you had to kind of develop and allow? It's something I had to get used to. The more I got used to his energy and his personality, the more in a sense I just trusted that whatever would come through is what needed to come through, then the more I used to. could relax and kind of get out of the way and just let more of his personality reveal itself. So he doesn't hesitate to challenge anyone who's put a question to him either. No, no, no. It's very blunt and very direct and doesn't usually beat around the bush, although, you know, he can be gentle, certainly with people through a process.

through is what needed to come through, then the more I used to. could relax and kind of get out of the way and just let more of his personality reveal itself. So he doesn't hesitate to challenge anyone who's put a question to him either. No, no, no. It's very blunt and very direct and doesn't usually beat around the bush, although, you know, he can be gentle, certainly with people through a process. But if he detect that someone is kind of, for lack of a better term, fooling themselves, or, you know, trying to convince themselves of something that they may not actually believe because of one fear or another, he'll be very quick to point it out, but in a way that he can take them through a process to learn to let that go. In fact, one of the things he's actually kind of said now and then is, you know, some people find him, I'll just say again, you know, very direct. I know that that's not everyone's cup of tea when they're dealing with these kinds of entities. But from Bashar's point of view, it's actually a good sign. If he feels that someone has a lot of processing to do and a long way to go before they grasp a concept, he'll actually be more gentle with them and take the time. If he feels that someone just needs a little push and that that will actually push them right across a threshold to where they say they want to be, and they're very close to being there, then he'll push. And he does that out of that. of love and he does that out of knowing that on a different level is actually what they're asking for because they know they're close to getting something. And if they're dealing with him, then they're asking an entity be direct with them and don't let them get away with anything, in other words. I think that's beautiful. Indeed. One of the questions, too, is the work that Amy and Tammy are embarked upon at the moment, which is quantum healing and it's based around regression hypnosis and in fact a number of flavors of placing people into altered states ultimately all with the intention of allowing their higher cells to either heal them or communicate. I'm just wondering when Bashar, when someone is standing in the audience in front of Bashar and putting a question to him, whether you're aware of communication between Bashar and the person higher self at that moment when he's making that choice as to how to respond. Yes. I'm actually far more aware of the communication with the higher self of the person than I am of the physical conversation. For me, it's like I'm falling into a daydream when I channel. And I know there's something going on. I'm getting feelings. I'm getting images.

to him, whether you're aware of communication between Bashar and the person higher self at that moment when he's making that choice as to how to respond. Yes. I'm actually far more aware of the communication with the higher self of the person than I am of the physical conversation. For me, it's like I'm falling into a daydream when I channel. And I know there's something going on. I'm getting feelings. I'm getting images. I'm getting concepts downloading into me in a way that I can use them. But I don't really hear the words. It's similar to where if you're having a daydream and somebody walks in the room and they have to call your name three times before you hear them, it's sort of like that. The words are very secondary because that's just a translation that the person in the room needs to hear. I'm experiencing more what Bashar perceives and he perceives us sort of as energy patterns, vibrations, ideas, concepts, and he sees it almost like a deck of cards fanned out or a bunch of interconnecting networking lines of energy that are connecting to a number of different ideas. And so he can clearly see in that spread of energy what's actually going on vibrationally in a person below the surface of whatever it is, their personality may actually be saying. So he's going directly. He's dealing not only with the personality on the surface, but he's dealing also with that person's unconscious mind. He's dealing with the higher mind. He's dealing with many different aspects of that person in a conversation to figure out and link into what it is he needs to draw upon to give them the information that would actually be of best benefit to them. He's sort of functioning like an interdimensional switchboard, if you will. Oh my God, I would love that. Definitely. Now, as a human, human channeler of that kind of experience, has that enabled you, you know, when you're not. not channeling Bashar in your day-to-day life when you're interacting with people to really reach, when you're communicating with them in the physical, to actually really also be starting to reach your higher self-reaching for theirs. Is that starting to become part of your day-to-day physical experience? Because you're being very exposed to it. Yeah, absolutely. After 30 years of channeling him, he's definitely rough on me. And I find that I'm able to tap into my own higher mind much more easily. And I can draw upon similar ways of accessing things. One of the things that, you know, in mentioning that we're doing this documentary now, one of the things that we did in the documentary that I'm very excited about and I think will be very exciting to people who see the documentary and maybe even a little bit startling, is that I actually did a channeling session with Bashar where I'm wired to an EEG machine.

can draw upon similar ways of accessing things. One of the things that, you know, in mentioning that we're doing this documentary now, one of the things that we did in the documentary that I'm very excited about and I think will be very exciting to people who see the documentary and maybe even a little bit startling, is that I actually did a channeling session with Bashar where I'm wired to an EEG machine. So we, for the first time, will actually present in this documentary what is actually happening in my brain when I'm normal and when I'm channeling. And without giving a lot away, I'm going to say that the technician who observed what was happening in the brain was actually quite startled to find that there are significant differences in what the brain is doing in the channeling state than what it does in a normal waking state. And in understanding what that state is all about, it makes it, I think, easier for us to know that we all have the ability to access that state and that we all do access that state from time to time when we're in our zone, when we're flowing, when we do what we love to do, when we're operating at a peak performance, or when we're in deep meditative states. It's a natural altered state that is natural to all of us. And I think demonstrating what's going on in the channeling state this way as a scientific demonstration will allow people to know that it's not some mysterious event. It's something that's quite accessible to everyone and that everyone can start functioning that way and be much more in alignment with their higher mind and allow more information access to come through them to be applied in their lives in beneficial ways. So I'm very excited about presenting that to people in the documentary. I think it's beautiful. That's a beautiful way to present it too. Yeah. Because it doesn't prove that Bashar exists, but it does prove that channeling is a true altered state. And that was really the purpose of the experiment. Did you have to learn how to be able to turn on and turn off? Was that a process to you? I did go into a channeling class when I began, and it was a series of certain guided meditations that got me into the appropriate state to be able to receive Bashar's first telepathic connection. But from that point forward, it really just became a process of just doing it. And the more I did it, you know, the more natural it became. At this point, I don't have to go through any particular process other than just relaxing with the intention of finding that particular frequency. And sometimes, in fact, if I actually, on rare occasions I might go and see someone else channeling.

receive Bashar's first telepathic connection. But from that point forward, it really just became a process of just doing it. And the more I did it, you know, the more natural it became. At this point, I don't have to go through any particular process other than just relaxing with the intention of finding that particular frequency. And sometimes, in fact, if I actually, on rare occasions I might go and see someone else channeling. When they start going in, that state is so conducive to me now, I actually have to intentionally hold myself from going into that state. Because if they start going in, it's almost like a hypnotic suggestion and I almost start going into it. So I actually have to hold myself out of it. Now it's so second nature. Well, I'll say it's almost first nature, you know, at this point. Is that something that will become, um, sort of the new normal. I mean, I know that there's such a desire for many of us to really connect on that level. Are there fifth dimensional aspects of ourselves sort of waiting for us to get to that stage where we can have that communication? Because I know that, you know, there are quite a few beautiful channelers out there. But still, there are a lot of, you know, the awakened community that doesn't feel as connected or feel like they can't connect to that portion of themselves, the higher aspect of themselves. So is that something that they're desiring to sort of bridge that connection at some point? Or is that just for like, for lack of better word, just for a few people? No, no, no. As we said, you know, everyone has a higher mind. Everyone connects to the higher mind. when they're doing what they love to do. And that's the whole point of acting on your excitement. Because let me put it another way. And this is kind of, again, the way Bashar has often framed it. When you act on the things that contain the highest amount of excitement, the reason that those things contain that excitement, that's a communication from your higher mind saying, this is the thing to do next. When you are willing to take action on that thing, that's your response to the higher mind saying, yes, I hear you. And that's what creates the dialogue, and that's what strengthens the relationship. And that's what allows you to blend and become your version of that as a physical being. And that's the whole point. Because when you respond that way by accepting the message coming from the higher mind through the mannerism more mechanism of excitement and you're willing to act on it and you become more aligned and more harmonious with it, then you start functioning as the whole person. If we're just functioning from our mental state, from our physical mind, in a sense, we're only using half of our person.

being. And that's the whole point. Because when you respond that way by accepting the message coming from the higher mind through the mannerism more mechanism of excitement and you're willing to act on it and you become more aligned and more harmonious with it, then you start functioning as the whole person. If we're just functioning from our mental state, from our physical mind, in a sense, we're only using half of our person. And, you know, in a joking manner, Bashar has often said, if you're just functioning through your physical mind, you're a half-wit. Because you're not using it. Highly. of what you are as a being. So the whole idea of acting on your excitement is what gets you to blend more and express more of what the higher mind is and to work in concert with it to function as a whole person. Because a person is actually made from the physical mind and the non-physical higher mind. You need both to function as a whole being. Properly. Awesome. Does he go get guidance to how? we could do that more effectively and easier. I just said it. You act on the thing that excite you the most to the best of your ability with absolutely, and I know this is the tough part for a lot of people, with absolutely zero insistence or assumption as to what the outcome of that action is supposed to be. Because the physical mind doesn't know how something is actually supposed to play out. It can guess. Sometimes it might guess right. but often it will guess wrong. If you allow the higher mind to simply show you what the outcome needs to be by taking that action, always know that whatever the outcome is is serving you best somehow, you will always see how it is serving you serving you. But you have to drop that insistence that the physical mind knows what it thinks it knows because very often it doesn't. And that's not its job. not designed to know what something is going to happen like. It's only designed to know what's happening. That's what the physical mind is for is to keep you focused in your present experience so that you can have the experience that was delivered by the higher mind based on the choices that the physical mind is making. So if you get excited and remain in that state, but drop any insistence on what you think the outcome needs to look like, then the higher mind can deliver the outcome that is actually representative of that state. And in many cases, the outcome might actually be many times better than the physical mind was capable of imagining, which means that if someone holds on to a particular outcome and insists that only that outcome can be the result of their excitement, then they're actually limiting the ways in which something could happen much better than they imagined.

then the higher mind can deliver the outcome that is actually representative of that state. And in many cases, the outcome might actually be many times better than the physical mind was capable of imagining, which means that if someone holds on to a particular outcome and insists that only that outcome can be the result of their excitement, then they're actually limiting the ways in which something could happen much better than they imagined. Tammy, that sounds like the phrase that you like to use occasionally. where you're actually commanding something or better. Yeah, or better. And then I go, hell yeah. Happy thank you more, please? Was it something else you say to? Happy thank you more, please. It's about surrendering to the state and letting go of the picture in terms of if I want to put it in if I want to put it in visualization terminology. It's like, it's great. Have a visualization that represents the eye. ideal outcome, that's fine. And let that picture act as a symbol to get you excited. Stay in the state of excitement that the picture generated and utterly drop the picture. Because you don't know that the ideal outcome actually has to look like that. Indeed. It could look. Yeah, and what I've picked up along the way is if the picture isn't generating excitement, then truly deep down, that's not really the thing that I wanted. And I had to come. to terms with that, like, I'm not really getting that excited about this. Is this what I really want? And, of course, this was the birth of what do you really want? Because a lot of times, half of us don't even know what we really want. We have some idea of what we think will make us happy. But when you get down to the deep desires and you can recognize that, and through the process of us learning to let go, we've actually become more in tune with what it is that we're actually desiring and not what we think would make us happy. You'd be surprised how jaded that thought process can be when you're not connected in. But the more we were letting go of things, it's like, oh, that's not really what I wanted, you know. And so it's like, oh, if this is not really making me excited, chances are that's not it. It's something else. Dig deeper, you know. And it's not even sometimes an issue of what the physical mind wants. It's what, as a being, we really need. Yes, absolutely. We'll always give us what we need, even though the physical mind may think it wants a certain thing. What we really, really need is what the higher mind actually delivers. Wow. Absolutely. Thank you for that. Oh, sure. Well, I'm just basically repeating Bouchard, and I know that that's what works when I'm, I know that's what works when I apply it.

mind wants. It's what, as a being, we really need. Yes, absolutely. We'll always give us what we need, even though the physical mind may think it wants a certain thing. What we really, really need is what the higher mind actually delivers. Wow. Absolutely. Thank you for that. Oh, sure. Well, I'm just basically repeating Bouchard, and I know that that's what works when I'm, I know that's what works when I apply it. So I work for other people, too, not that anyone has to go down this bath. Everyone's different and everyone has a different way of getting where they need to go. As Bashar often says, if there was only one way, there would only be one person. Look around. You know, there's a lot of people and a lot of different ways of arriving at this understanding. So whatever works for you is what works for you. Exactly. What I found interesting of what you just said was that, you know, when you, you think we're in human, human mind time. It's like, okay, I want this. And we think we do because that's what we've been seen or we've learned or, you know, so we just to have good. And then it's never showing up. And you're right, because you're higher self. Like, no, we have other things to do. Exactly. Yeah, because it's like, you know, it's like the physical mind is kind of like down in the valley. And it can't see around the next corner very well. It's just following and trying to figure out where to go. But the higher mind is standing on the, the mountaintop. And it can see all the paths. And so the higher mind knows what path you actually need to take that will get you where you need to go. And so when the physical mind argues with the higher mind and says, no, no, no, I want to go down this path, the higher mind, you know, throws up its metaphorical hands as well, okay, but I'm telling you, you're going to run into a brick wall or you're going to fall into a hole. So you don't have to listen, but I'm telling you I can see the path you need to take. So if you will just listen and follow the message I'm sending you in the form of excitement and act only on that, no matter how long it takes, I'm telling you that's actually the path of least resistance. But can I, I'll tell a little story that happened just last week, so we'll touch on that. I was driving. We have a lot of snow here, 70 feet, traffic. And I was, and I was like, you know what, hire yourself? I need a way home that's going to be quick. Because otherwise, I was looking at a couple hours with snowing and stuff. And I was like, and you can see better than I can see.

tell a little story that happened just last week, so we'll touch on that. I was driving. We have a lot of snow here, 70 feet, traffic. And I was, and I was like, you know what, hire yourself? I need a way home that's going to be quick. Because otherwise, I was looking at a couple hours with snowing and stuff. And I was like, and you can see better than I can see. So can you tell me it's rude I should take. And all of the sudden I heard this route, Highland Ave. And I go, Hyland Ave, I wouldn't even, honestly, I never would have thought of it myself in my mind. And I was like, no, what? I don't even know how to get to Hylandau to take that route. Like, I don't remember. And, you know, because it was in a town that I used to living years ago in my family living. But I couldn't just visualize. I couldn't even picture how to get there. And I was like, all right, I'm just going to trust it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to trust it. I was home and a half hour. Right. Now, I would like to add to that story, because that's one way the higher mind does work. Sometimes, though, the other way that it can work when you ask it a question like that is to say, you need to stay in traffic right now. So I just want to give people the understanding that if the higher mind says stay there, it doesn't mean something's wrong. It may mean that that's where you need to be right now. So everyone needs to really open up. to the way in which the higher mind responds because sometimes the answer won't be what you think it'll be. It may be to your best advantage to actually be where you are. Yeah, I've had that experience too, actually. And one of the processes that you go through in this in the buildup of communication is having an experience where you actually get the message and you override it. Right. And then you get the message. And go and do what it is you, your ego mindset, to go and do. And it doesn't work and you think I really should have listened to myself, you know, half an hour ago when I decided to turn left and got into even worse traffic. Right. I mean, you know, here's the thing is how do you know, higher mind is telling you to stay there, how do you know the higher mind isn't preventing you from getting into an accident down the road? Yeah, absolutely. I totally get that. Totally get that. This is really, you know, trusting what you're hearing. It's such a big part of it. Right. And learning to tell the difference, like you said, between the higher mind suggestion and the ego minds and systems.

do you know, higher mind is telling you to stay there, how do you know the higher mind isn't preventing you from getting into an accident down the road? Yeah, absolutely. I totally get that. Totally get that. This is really, you know, trusting what you're hearing. It's such a big part of it. Right. And learning to tell the difference, like you said, between the higher mind suggestion and the ego minds and systems. Which is actually part of actually building up your confidence in channeling too, I gather. Because I know that we all channel in our own way when we're in the zone or when we're writing something that we're really inspired about. We're all really channeling. But we don't recognize it a lot of the time. Yeah. It's also a lot of the time. lot of relaxing because in any situation you find yourself, if you relax into what's happening and let what's happening be okay, then if something else really needs to happen, you'll be much more open to receiving the message from and hearing the message from the higher mind that something else needs to be done. As long as you're insisting that where you're at is not okay, you're actually blocking the higher mind's ability to communicate clearly to you. So, I mean, fear, fear, it defies, you know. Yeah. So if you are stuck in traffic, by all means you can open up to the higher mind, and the higher mind might exactly say, take this road over here. But the higher mind might also say, just stay put, you're fine. So the idea is that when you relax, you'll learn to tell the difference between what really is coming from the higher mind and what's coming from the negative ego's insistence on wanting to control the situation. Yep. That touches on something that we heard last week was that when we head on to the higher self had told her about worries. Yeah. It's sort of what you're reflecting on. And the more we're in worry, the more they cannot communicate, but you can't hear it. You can't hear it. Right. Yeah. If you push, yeah, because the higher mind is always communicating with you. It never stops. It's just on our end, we may be deaf to it because of the way that we're operating. Now, Bishatian. Bashar himself, as a being, taking on the role of communicator through you, was that something that he went, I guess was he selected by some group for training? Or was he actually a volunteer? He's a first contact specialist. And on their world, that is actually, for lack of a better term, a calling. And it's actually something that exists in his family lineage. His father was a first contact specialist. His grandmother was a first contact specialist.

being, taking on the role of communicator through you, was that something that he went, I guess was he selected by some group for training? Or was he actually a volunteer? He's a first contact specialist. And on their world, that is actually, for lack of a better term, a calling. And it's actually something that exists in his family lineage. His father was a first contact specialist. His grandmother was a first contact specialist. He is following that family line of being a first contact specialist and did, in fact, go through different kinds of training to learn how to communicate with other civilizations for the first time. One of the things, of course, that they do as first contact specialist, in order to have some understanding of the civilization that they may be about to contact is they always choose to have a life at least once in that civilization incarnationally. Because then it gives them the experience that they need to draw upon so that that that civilization isn't completely alien to them. So that's why. Yeah. Yeah. So that's why in linear terms, of course, from Bashar's perspective, everything exists at once. But from the linear perspective, he is often said, it's like you could look at him as my future self or a future incarnation and I'm one of his past lives. And that's why he can draw upon the experiences of our reality and why it's not that foreign to him because he's already had the experience that I'm having and can draw upon it. to understand our culture enough to know how to communicate with us and to relate to us and to allow us to relate to him. So does that mean... Can you hear on your experiences now? Can he feel your emotions? Of course. Of course. Does that mean that Bashar is part of your spiritual lineage or in connected to your soul group? I mean, how do you, I'm sort of using new age terms here to discuss. a genealogical, if you like, line of spirit? If you want, we're extensions from the same oversaw. Gotcha. Okay. So how many lives has that over soul had in this collective? I have no idea. Interesting question at some point if it's information that we're allowed to have? Yeah. Oh yeah, that would be a question for him more than me. Of course, yeah. The perspective to be able to see it from that perspective. And, you know, if it's not appropriate for me to know, he won't tell me. Yeah, well, that's definitely the way that it works. I think the perspective of you being, you know, him being your future self and you being his half self, if that's true. Yeah, it is. And that they co-exist at the same moment or the same space in time.

The perspective to be able to see it from that perspective. And, you know, if it's not appropriate for me to know, he won't tell me. Yeah, well, that's definitely the way that it works. I think the perspective of you being, you know, him being your future self and you being his half self, if that's true. Yeah, it is. And that they co-exist at the same moment or the same space in time. And that's the only way that we can actually have a communication like this is that they actually do exist at the same time. If I was really in the past or he was really in the future, we wouldn't be able to connect. But because everything exists at once and the past and the future are actually illusions, that's why we can actually connect. That pesky moment of now keeps popping up. How many assignments has Bashar had as a first contact specialist? He's never given a number, but I get the sense it's been several dozens. I get a lot more. Because he's talking, he's talked now and then. about other civilizations that he has contacted or is now contacting. And that's sometimes very fascinating what he's describing as these other civilizations. Sounds like he has parallel assignments going on. Well, they have the ability to operate that way in their consciousness. Yeah, amazing. There's a new form of multitasking. Exactly. Multidimensional multitasking. I asked before the show whether, because they're physically here in a physical vessel, whether they ever whip off home for a bit of a holiday, but obviously with the capabilities that they have, would they need to? Would they need to go often? Well, it's not a matter of, if he chooses to, he can. And yet from our perspective, it might still appear that he's here. Yeah, well, even some of the conversations he has with people in the events that we hold for Bashar are not necessarily happening at the same time they're happening for us. He may have already had the conversation. He may have yet to have the conversation that we're having with him. So it's just that he has the conversation, and the essence of the conversation goes to whatever time frame it needs to, to unfold, so to speak. Well, that's fascinating right there. Hmm. Yeah. That's like a little, oh, I'm going to think that is. With the communication that you two have, having established communications, I presume his home world is fine. far from here. Could he actually do it from there? Higher. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Because time and space to them don't matter in that sense. But to put some kind of reference point on it, they're in a completely, it's not only that they're far away in physical space, he's in a different parallel dimension altogether. So even though their reality is physical to them, just as ours is to us, we wouldn't be able to see their reality.

he actually do it from there? Higher. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Because time and space to them don't matter in that sense. But to put some kind of reference point on it, they're in a completely, it's not only that they're far away in physical space, he's in a different parallel dimension altogether. So even though their reality is physical to them, just as ours is to us, we wouldn't be able to see their reality. their galaxy, their star systems, their planets, unless we actually shifted to the frequency of his parallel dimension. And he wouldn't be able to perceive ours unless he shifted to ours, which is what he does. So does that require much effort on their part? No, none at all at this point. Yep. At this point in their evidence. So it's far more likely that he'll be joining me for coffee here than vice versa at this point. Yes, unless he lands and takes you on a ship and helps you shift to his dimension. Yes. Yes, which I have heard accounts of similar things happening. I think Alex Collier has experienced that. I think we've already all made those appointments, and they'll all happen when and where they need to. Well, that sounds like fun. I have a funny question. So if you're booking it's right, do you have to tell them ahead of time, like so you know that you're both available? No, because again, time for him is not what it is for us. So it doesn't matter when I choose to book based on how convenient it is for me, his consciousness will be there, even if that's not what he's actually doing at the time I'm having the conversation. So it sounds like they're in a constant state of not just by location, but multiple location, as in when they need to. Yeah, and that's what's so fascinating about doing the channeling is I get to experience what they experience in terms of how they see things. And it's really had an effect on my ability to sort of pick up on other aspects of things rather than just looking at this dimension, this reality as the only one. So it's starting to become a very multi-level sort of perception that's leaking into me as well just because I get to be exposed to the way he actually used things when I'm. channel him. It can be a little bit disorienting sometimes, but I'm learning to work with it. Does it make you tired? No, no, actually it's energizing. In the beginning, when I might have had unconscious resistance to his energy, yes, it tired me out. But after I really let go and really trusted it, then actually it becomes very uplifting, supportive and actually very energizing because there's no longer any resistance to it.

I'm. channel him. It can be a little bit disorienting sometimes, but I'm learning to work with it. Does it make you tired? No, no, actually it's energizing. In the beginning, when I might have had unconscious resistance to his energy, yes, it tired me out. But after I really let go and really trusted it, then actually it becomes very uplifting, supportive and actually very energizing because there's no longer any resistance to it. Well, here's a question for Tammy and Amy, who are both embarking on healing, the healing journey through the quantum healing processes associated with the hypnotic regressions. Are you guys starting to experience higher energy states resulting from your healing sessions rather than necessarily finding them tiring? Yes and no. In the beginning, there's definitely that, like, a huge, you can feel when everything shifts in the air and it makes everything super heightened. The questions flow with absolute grace and effectiveness and effectiveness. And, you know, you just, there is that feeling that you're not alone and you're not, you're not just with the being that's coming through, you know, from thousands of years ago speaking through this physical body, but you're almost like, you know, there is this feeling that there might be others even standing around watching. And the more data that comes through, and each time it's, you know, it's very different, but the people that I'm getting are so articulate in the people that I'm getting are so articulate in the, and what they're sharing, and it's really not going into past life so much, but rather amazing data about our universe and how our world works and how other worlds work, you know, and parallel worlds. And so there is that, and then about an hour or two, there's just this, like, still that heightened sense of, you know, sensory stuff going on, and about, like, about an hour and a half to two hours after, it's like I cannot keep my eyes open. And I keep forgetting to ask if we're getting downloads of information or activations or something because it's literally like there are times where I'm, like, knocked out for four hours. I've even gone into, like, altered states after one client that I had, and I was going off to some, some place. So I don't know if that's just, we used to. this or, you know, they're just trying to pack in as much as they can in that moment. I don't know. It can't be downloads. It can definitely be downloads. Sometimes the physical mind has to get out of the way in order to receive the downloads or efficient. So it can be that. That's talked about right, Amy. I guess last week who's had a lot of experience, quantum healing, was experiencing I guess it's probably because of the fact that she's had a lot of experience in it.

in that moment. I don't know. It can't be downloads. It can definitely be downloads. Sometimes the physical mind has to get out of the way in order to receive the downloads or efficient. So it can be that. That's talked about right, Amy. I guess last week who's had a lot of experience, quantum healing, was experiencing I guess it's probably because of the fact that she's had a lot of experience in it. She was actually experiencing, um, did she describe it, guys, did she describe it as reverse aging? Yes. Because of the experiences she was having. You put into the field of reverse aging, yes. Yeah, yeah. So it's amazing potentials come up. Wondering, wondering if you experience the presence of other beings while you, while you're, while you're telling Bashar, observing or interacting with you or Bashar. All the time. He's always plugged in to more than I can even count. Amongst his own people? Amongst his own people, amongst other dimensional beings, amongst higher cells, amongst I can't even, I mean, it's just, it truly is a multi-dimensional networking that he's doing to access whatever information he needs to deliver. And he's relying on his ability to connect to a multitude of beings on a multitude of levels of reality. Wow. And it's constantly shifting and constantly dynamic and constantly changing. This is why it's often very challenging for me to describe what the sensation is actually like. And I know it's probably going to fall somewhat short of the experience, but we're doing our best to kind of show this or describe this in pictorial imagery in the documentary as to what I experience when I'm in that state. So I know that will get about 5% of it, but at least we'll be able to give people some hint of what I'm actually seeing and what I'm experiencing in that state. But it's really difficult to describe. So would that be the way that his collective... What's interesting is that... Oh, please, I mean... What's interesting is when we're doing... doing a session and we're communicating with the higher self. You can hear it, like pause or put you on hold almost for a second. Well, it goes and gets the data. So you can tell it's going out to other beings. So I know exactly what you're describing. I never have a physical feeling of having it happen in my body. Yeah, it'll happen very... Because that would be fascinating to understand that. Yeah. It happens very quickly in the channeling, but there will be moments. People will hear Bashar say, just a moment, just a moment, just a moment. And that's when he's like really going afar a field to get the information that he needs or trying to find the route that the person will allow him to go through.

happen in my body. Yeah, it'll happen very... Because that would be fascinating to understand that. Yeah. It happens very quickly in the channeling, but there will be moments. People will hear Bashar say, just a moment, just a moment, just a moment. And that's when he's like really going afar a field to get the information that he needs or trying to find the route that the person will allow him to go through. Because one of the things he's also dealing with is the doorway that personalities are willing to open for him to access information that may exist within them that they may not normally be willing to share. But if he finds out that they're willing to open that door, even a crack, he'll go through it. But sometimes it may take him a second or two to look through that multitude of expressions of a person to find that one crack in the doorway that they're willing to let him through to get the answer that they gave. That would explain. Yeah, that would explain his uncanny ability to kind of push through resistance that people. have when they ask questions that are obviously bound up in their personal belief set of limitation. And he asked them a question that just cut straight through it, like bang, and they're just sometimes left speechless or shifted on the spot. Yeah, that would explain that whole process. So thank you for that. That's really amazing. And I wonder whether that's the way he's, whether that's his particular specialty is networking on that scale because of his role or whether that's just the way he's just the way he's, whether that's just the way he's collecting. works? Well, I'm sure it's a combination of both. The collective does work that way somewhat, but since he also specializes in making contact and communicating with people on that level, it's probably highly accelerated in that particular expression through him and through any other person. Just for clarification, you mentioned collective, is Bashar an individual or group consciousness. An individual and a group. In other words, he's his own individual society, but they're all telepathically connected as well. I mean, what you're saying, yeah, what you're saying is, you know, it's a big sign pointing to our future and how we could be. And even that, you know, Tammy and Amy and I do experience little bits and pieces of that in, in the shows and in our conversations. So, I mean, when Tammy came out with a new normal comment before, you know, is this state of being new normal? She basically felt like she'd lifted it straight out of my head or whether we're having the same thought the same time, I don't know. But I was sitting there going, yes, because that's what I was thinking. Well, that's what telepathy. Yeah, but that's when telepathy is, as Bashar describes it. That's why he uses the word telempathy.

out with a new normal comment before, you know, is this state of being new normal? She basically felt like she'd lifted it straight out of my head or whether we're having the same thought the same time, I don't know. But I was sitting there going, yes, because that's what I was thinking. Well, that's what telepathy. Yeah, but that's when telepathy is, as Bashar describes it. That's why he uses the word telempathy. Because, you know, telepathy is not actually reading someone else's mind, according to Bashar. It's being on the same wavelength and having the same thoughts at the same time. And the same feelings, too? Yeah, because you're in sync with them. This is why people who are in love often know what each other is thinking, because they're in the same frequency. They're having the same thoughts as the other person at the same time because they're mirroring each other. And that's why they finish each other's sentences and know what each other is thinking. So being more in love. with people actually makes you more telempathic with them. That's a great word. So it's a reason to fall in love with everyone. I think I'm going to fall in love right now. So it's a good description of Bashar's society. Every single person in that society is in love with every other person. Wow. That's beautiful. That raises peace and harmony to a whole new level. Yeah. That's awesome. Absolutely. Fantastic. And one thing, I'll just keeping in on the time here, because I'm cognizant that we don't want to run too far over time. There's apparently a new first contact specialist that Bashar is going to introduce to us as part of, I gather, he's training in first contact specialist. And that's coming up in April. It is. We're doing a session up in Oakland in April. And also, I believe this same trainee is going to come through in our June session, Los Angeles. And people can find out about those sessions by just going to the Bashar.org website. Any event we're doing will be listed there. But yes, it's actually going to be very interesting, I think, because this first contact trainee from his world, specifically at this point in his training, doesn't really know much about us at all. And so it's going to be an opportunity, I think, for the audience to actually function not only as teachers for this trainee to allow him to learn about us in a different way. But I think it will also help solidify a lot of the stuff that Bashar has been sharing with people over the years because, as we often know, the best way to learn is to teach. So I think Bashar has kind of a double agenda of not only a.

think, for the audience to actually function not only as teachers for this trainee to allow him to learn about us in a different way. But I think it will also help solidify a lot of the stuff that Bashar has been sharing with people over the years because, as we often know, the best way to learn is to teach. So I think Bashar has kind of a double agenda of not only a. allowing the trainee to learn something about us, but allowing us to see how much we've retained of what Bashar has taught us by feeding it back to the trainee when he asks us questions. Oh, that's interesting. Now, wouldn't the trainee have had to have a life here, as you stated earlier? But I don't think he has yet. That's the point. I think he's totally foreign to us. And we are totally foreign to him. And that's what's going to make the conversation, I think, that much. more interesting because I don't think he understands how we operate at all. Because Bashar... He doesn't understand all the human emotions we carry. Well, he understands emotions, but he doesn't necessarily understand how we use them or what we do with them. It's kind of like what Bashar said a long time ago when he first started communicating with us, is that some... There are beings that he knows of, you know, in the universe that really don't understand how we can possibly not know that we are connected to creation. It's unfathomable. Well, you know, it's funny because I have the same question. How do I not know? Yeah, exactly. So I think it's going to be a very interesting conversation between a being that automatically has no understanding of how we could possibly hide that fact from ourselves and we'll see what results from that kind of a conversation. That's a fascinating. And that's such an opportunity. They're all recorded. There are all recorded. There are many, many, many sessions, hundreds of sessions that have been recorded over the years and many of them are available on the Bashar.org website. So please check it out if you're interested in any of the variety of dozens of subjects that Bashar has covered over the last 30 years. Amazing. I mean, 30 years. Yeah, we were talking before the show about, you know, 30 years is amazing for contact. But I guess it's really to them, it's no time at all. No, not really. I mean, they're enjoying what they do. They live in the moment. I really have no idea what the so-called passage of time may have seemed like to them in terms of 30 years. But they enjoy every moment of it. And it's always new to them. They're never really repeating. themselves, even if we think he said something a hundred times, to him, it's always the first time. Hmm. Do his people actually experience physical death?

they're enjoying what they do. They live in the moment. I really have no idea what the so-called passage of time may have seemed like to them in terms of 30 years. But they enjoy every moment of it. And it's always new to them. They're never really repeating. themselves, even if we think he said something a hundred times, to him, it's always the first time. Hmm. Do his people actually experience physical death? They do, but to them, they just choose to leave. And at this point in their evolution, the body just converts back to energy instantaneously. Wow. Okay. Another whole level again, right there. Yeah. They used to experience it similar to the way we do. But that's that. was a long ago in their history. So if they make a choice at that moment to re-manifist in the physical within the same race of beings, could they do that if they wished? Yes. Directly back in the physical. Could they also shift into another experience elsewhere in a different collective? Yes. And that would appear to be part of our future, too, at some distant point. Well, it's actually what we're doing now. The only main difference is they know they're doing it, and we're only just beginning to suspect that we're doing it. That's true. Yeah. But if we're doing all the same things that they do, we're just not aware of it, hasn't? Hmm. And therefore, we don't have as much conscious, intentional, you know, control over it because we don't think we're doing it. They know they're doing it, and that's why that gives them the ability to to do it in the way that they prefer to instantly. Fantastic. Now, we're coming up to the end of the second hour and wanting to make sure that any messages that you need to put out there about upcoming events or even specific thoughts that Bashar wants everybody to, you know, keeping their awareness and contemplate. Any other messages to pass through? I think the most important one is really just the idea of understanding that acting on your passion is really the key, dropping that insistence on the outcome, trusting that this mechanism works automatically. You don't have to make it work, and that it will just allow you to naturally flow through life in a much more effortless way. It's really about living your dreams instead of just talking about them or dreaming about them. And I think that's what makes all the, the difference in the world. Excellent. Thank you. Indeed. Thank you for this opportunity. I appreciate it. As do we. And I'll just wind up my bit by saying, thank you very much, Daryl. And I hope we can do this again really soon. And I'll hand it over to Amy and then to Tammy to round out however they see fit. All right. And all of you please have an absolutely wonderfully creative day.

the difference in the world. Excellent. Thank you. Indeed. Thank you for this opportunity. I appreciate it. As do we. And I'll just wind up my bit by saying, thank you very much, Daryl. And I hope we can do this again really soon. And I'll hand it over to Amy and then to Tammy to round out however they see fit. All right. And all of you please have an absolutely wonderfully creative day. Thank you so much. Bye, bye. Thank you. Thank you, Darrell. Thank you. Well, guys, that's been another amazing, amazing, amazing episode of what do you really want? Already we're getting all the feedback on Facebook. Thank you. We're so grateful to, you know, to Darrell for spending the time with us tonight. I think he's already signed off. But this has been an incredible show. I'm going to have to go back and listen again and take notes. Wow. But I hope you guys enjoyed it as much as we did. It's been fantastic. Good night, guys. And Amy? Good night, everyone. Good night, everyone. Thank you so much. Good night, everybody. We'll see you next week. Hi, Chris. Bye, guys. Bye, guys. Bye. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. You know. You know. You know, Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.