Without Struggle (Part 3 of 3)

No need. So it's just a different way of looking at things instead of I like this food and I don't like that food. You know, you just look at it in a different way. I'm attracted to this food right now. That is what I am right now. This is how I vibrate right now. Therefore, if I am equal to this idea right now, then it is joyful. Automatically, you don't have to think about it. We simply enjoy it. Mr. Bishop, I thought to same thing. What about the, you look at something and you don't vibrate towards it? Is it because you have no need to experience it? Is it because, or is it because you don't want to be granted? Again, understand that simply, when you have your own vibration, what you may, I'll say, simply observe in that way to be a part of the overall mass consciousness you are in, but not part of your own personal reality in that. that sense, you will simply find either yourself not interacting with or find yourself to simply be impassive, impartially. Simply, you will know when you are resisting an idea because there will be a great deal of emotionality involved in that sense. Right, so if there's no emotionality involving things, then that's something else. Realize that knowing precedes emotionality. What you know, you're not necessarily have to feel. to feel, although that is, in a sense, a great compassion. Because you will still recognize yourself as connected, still recognize any idea as a reflection to yourself, but if it is, I'll say, owned, then no need to make a big deal about it. You still wouldn't recognize it. And to go on. Question. Um, Bashar, this is the statement. Yes. Some of us, and maybe a question at the end, some of us got together last night and, uh, and, uh, and, uh, we, we felt as cousins of Onama, and we were allowing ourselves to communicate with her. And at first we were all kind of tilted and, um, trying to be serious about staff. For a while, we started just gooping off and being real random and sunny. And, um, we really started to get a feel of Esafani, uh, and being a, just a big ball, you know, everybody having a real ball of it. And, uh, you know, I, you know, I, kind of, I kind of, um, was, um, wondering about, uh, just an idea of your civilization. Um, you know, there are certain limitations in our, uh, inherent in our, um, civilization as we had created it. Yes. Um, you know, having to do a third density, but also, other than that, just our own special limitations. Yes. What are, um, like, what are some of the differences? What are some of the limitations that you still create? still create as far as being an esophony, you know what I'm saying? All right, thank you.

there are certain limitations in our, uh, inherent in our, um, civilization as we had created it. Yes. Um, you know, having to do a third density, but also, other than that, just our own special limitations. Yes. What are, um, like, what are some of the differences? What are some of the limitations that you still create? still create as far as being an esophony, you know what I'm saying? All right, thank you. Understandably there will still be, all right? Much of the idea, again, of the physicality, of the time, of the time frame, from time to time. Simply again, there will be, I'll say, magnitudes of consciousness to which in that way we are also still exploring. You follow me? Uh, can you be more specific? There are dimensions of reality of which we know nothing. Right, so you're still, you're exploring those. We always will be. Of course. So we'll go. Sure. So, are you, you know, okay, every consciousness operates on every level. And in this, in this focus, up until more recently, we tend to just be very focused in this one level. To a degree, except we can't stay connected up in dream space and whatnot. Um, how, uh, how is it focused there, you know, like, are you focused, to any degree on, to some of your, um, consciousness that are at levels other than the fourth density, for example? To some degree. Uh-huh. But again, realize that we have chosen to do, I'll say, many ideas which involve focused within, again, the third level, and the transition from third to forth. Understand that the idea of the idea of, of knowing or being in contact or in touch with the idea of information in that way will be limited by our allowance or our, I'll say, choice of not, I'll say, wishing to interfere with free will. Who is free will? Anyone's? Including her own. Yes. Therefore, understand simply that when we communicate with you, many times, we will not in that way know no information that you seek from us, that will be our sign that to know it, would be to interfere with your free will. Yes, I understand. Therefore, we have chosen the limitation of not knowing many things. Right, right. Just like we choose that limitation, otherwise we wouldn't really have taken this whole life seriously, and I said, Yes. Right. Okay, okay. But, so I guess what other thing, I know that you have those limitations, but I just wanted a more of a feel of what it tends to be like. Obviously, it's very different than the third density. But now realize we are in that way still, as you say, third density. Oh, so you're going to do the transition too? Yes. All the counterpart civilizations are. I see. Wow, that's really wild. There are, I'll say, different ideas even within third density. Yes, I noticed. Oh, yeah. Very different. Very different.

wanted a more of a feel of what it tends to be like. Obviously, it's very different than the third density. But now realize we are in that way still, as you say, third density. Oh, so you're going to do the transition too? Yes. All the counterpart civilizations are. I see. Wow, that's really wild. There are, I'll say, different ideas even within third density. Yes, I noticed. Oh, yeah. Very different. Very different. Like there's a lot of different stations on the AM dial and a lot of different stations. Very good. Right, so I guess I don't really have a real, well, I don't know, you know. Is there anything else you can tell me about the 4th century? You will find out. What have you... Have you found anything surprising or... Oh, always. I mean, specifically about this dimension, or our planet as compared to your planet, just since you have been... Well, understand. However, I'll say first of all that when the initial contacts were made, the idea that you called religion was a great surprise. Really? And what would have not found it anywhere else. You have not found the idea of religion. You mean many different ideas of religion? It seems. And the idea in and of itself, of not being, but simply following. Pretending. You mean a separateness of religion, per se, and the idea of being and living? Yes. I see. It was a great... reflection for us of all of the possibilities within all that is. And the idea of the integration of the positive and negative energies was a great teaching. Thank you. Is that similar reflection to the Orion energy? Which? That of religion here as it is here? In general. Not really. But understand simply that within any particular particular manifestation upon your planet that will be the opportunity to experience again, service to self or service to all that is, freedom of choice or the idea of domination in any endeavor. Yes. It's not restricted to the idea you call religion. I see. I see. So domination doesn't really exist anywhere else like here? It does in that being have chosen in that way to experience the idea of domination. the idea of domination. There are civilizations that choose to experience the idea of the suppression of free will, but it is the choice. They choose to view that there are, I'll say, in that way, betters and letters. You follow me. As much upon your planet has chosen to experience that idea as well. So it's a separation from what you believe in what you believe in what you are the idea of... In a sense, yes. Question. Is that phenomena of what creates the shells? Yes, do I agree. Separation again from what you are will create the artificiality, shells of artificial emotions, hope, analysis, and so on. on. Thank you.

letters. You follow me. As much upon your planet has chosen to experience that idea as well. So it's a separation from what you believe in what you believe in what you are the idea of... In a sense, yes. Question. Is that phenomena of what creates the shells? Yes, do I agree. Separation again from what you are will create the artificiality, shells of artificial emotions, hope, analysis, and so on. on. Thank you. Do all those other civilizations, do you say the association is compulsive about how many civilizations, did you say, seven, six, or how many civilizations? Did they all have, like, they all have a different time frame and so on? Any sense? There will be, to some degree, harmonious interaction, and then that will occur within your terminology one time frame. Otherwise, in and of themselves, they operate on many different frequencies of existence. Understand that to a degree, any, I'll say, idea that its own civilization, its own mass carcassness exists in a slightly different vibration. Therefore, there will be, when traveling in that way, from planet to planet, the idea of shifting in frequency in order to experience the consciousness upon that planet. Otherwise, you may simply experience that planet as barren, or not experience the planet at all. So in a sense, if we went all over the universe, we'd just find barren planets unless we shifted our frequency. Yes. Yes. In the whole universe? Understand, although there will be many, many civilizations on many planets who will be very close to your frequency, but understand if they are close to your frequency, they are close to your level of civilization. And not what you would term the idea of advancement. Simply understand that that is why the idea of advancement, while we do not view it as being better, in your terminology, implies it is in that sense existing within a future time. A future vibration. The idea that someday we will achieve that is a future thought, a future projection. And when you are in that civilization, even though it seems to be simultaneous, you will understand that you had to shift your vibrational level to the idea of being equal to that idea of the future projection. Then understand that any civilizations that you find, in a sense, close or within in that way to your own vibration, will also be exactly at your level of civilization. To some degree. So we could perceive them without shifting? It will still be a slight shift. Still be by agreement. You may not be aware of it. It may be very slight, but it will still be a shift.

idea of the future projection. Then understand that any civilizations that you find, in a sense, close or within in that way to your own vibration, will also be exactly at your level of civilization. To some degree. So we could perceive them without shifting? It will still be a slight shift. Still be by agreement. You may not be aware of it. It may be very slight, but it will still be a shift. In the same, same way that there are the idea of again civilizations to some degree consciousness upon many of the planet again within your own solar system but not physically as you understand it it is another dimensional shift therefore all of the planets within your solar system aside from your own will appear to be barren of that type of life follow me whether we use remote robots or not No. Now, if we went to a civilization on Mars or Venus in a different time frequency, does they look at Earth and see Earth as barren? In a sense, yes. So they don't know that there's life on Earth, even though they have great civilizations there in a different frequency. Yes. Understand again, to travel in space is to travel in time. Space and time are all of the same idea. Your own scientists understand that. Understand that there are, therefore, I'll say, other civilizations within your solar system in different time frequencies, different dimensional frequencies, but not in your own. Are everyone, is every planet in the solar system and habit is in? Not really in that sense. Oh. more about that if we can. You will find simply that there will be many different ideas. There will be to you, I'll say, planet which you perceive to still exist, which have in that way civilizations upon them in your past. In a sense, some in your future, some of which are yourselves. Understand there are, I'll say civilizations. In a good way, again, was it going to be past timeframes where planet no longer exists? You follow me? Yeah. There are also conscious netters within different dimensions of reality, not existing in a sense upon the planet as you understand it to a degree, but existing in that way and being able to perceive all the different levels of all the civilizations that have existed do exist or will exist on all the planets in your solar system. They function. as to what you understand to be, I'll say to some degree the council of your system. You follow me. There is in that way for every system, to some degree, the idea of a council or an association, which in a sense perceives and interact with all other consciousness for the idea expressed within any particular system. They are in a sense representatives. Hmm. Are they individuals? Are they... more like an essence or archetypal. Both. Both. They consist of both. In a sense.

some degree the council of your system. You follow me. There is in that way for every system, to some degree, the idea of a council or an association, which in a sense perceives and interact with all other consciousness for the idea expressed within any particular system. They are in a sense representatives. Hmm. Are they individuals? Are they... more like an essence or archetypal. Both. Both. They consist of both. In a sense. Again, this will be difficult to describe within the terminology as you understand the levels of dimensionality. Well, could we be part of, us as individuals, be part of an overall council? To some degree. But I will say that still within your mass consciousness will be, I'll say, a different timeframe. different time frame for you. Oh, I see. Okay. Is there an approximate time at that? Not at this time. Okay. Is this the Galactic Federation? Simply understand that the idea of Galactic Federation will be more the idea of what we turn to be the association. What we turn to be your counsel in that way will simply be in that way the portion of the association without, say, relative representation. relative representation of a particular system. It will be a portion of the association. Do follow me? How long have you, has Esotani known as our existence? Do you mean in the sense of physicality? Yes. That you say, for instance, we might go to other planets and would see life there because the level of frequency that we're vibrating at. All right. Approximately, approximately, in your terms of time, now understand there will be, to some degree, variation within this idea depending upon the viewpoint, but understand simply, approximately, there will be, I'll say, 275 years. That was how long ago you first heard of religion? Any sense? 275 years ago. years ago. So we must have been vibrating at some frequency equal to yours or similar. It was when we began to understand the idea of our counterpart consciousness within you. As you will understand the vibration of the counterpart consciousness within another civilization and relate to them in much the same way we relate to you. Within again, approximately the same amount of time from now. Does everyone on your planet relate to us? to us on a certain individual. At this point, since we are also vibrating within the idea of a mass consciousness, everyone. Oh, so then everyone on Earth will recognize a counterpart civilization, math conservation? At the point, yes. Oh. How long, a proc, do you have any idea how long that would take? Again, within, as we have said, the approximation of your mass consciousness at this time, again, roughly 300 years. I mean, like we'll have maybe news bulletins and stuff.

point, since we are also vibrating within the idea of a mass consciousness, everyone. Oh, so then everyone on Earth will recognize a counterpart civilization, math conservation? At the point, yes. Oh. How long, a proc, do you have any idea how long that would take? Again, within, as we have said, the approximation of your mass consciousness at this time, again, roughly 300 years. I mean, like we'll have maybe news bulletins and stuff. news and stuff like that, then maybe our news will consist of, like we have, you know, news on TV and the newspapers will consist of this, news about this other counter-corporate civilization? You will simply again, at that time, know, your own consciousness. Oh, I see. You will not need that idea you call the media. Mm-hmm, okay. That's right. So did serious in a similar fashion just come in a come and basically just discover you, you could say... Quite similar, different, but similar. Yeah, 275 years ago, or would it be another 300 under that? That would be slightly different. Uh-huh. Again, in their terms of time, their fluctuation and idea of themselves took quite a different path. Therefore, allow me to simply say, more it would be the awareness 500 of your years ago. Uh-huh. But again, understand that to some degree, their awareness preceded our awareness of them. Right, their awareness of you? Yes. Right, right. And sure, it's certainly possible for all these kind definitions to change, correct? Yes. Well, it'd be very interesting then that all the civilizations in this solar system hit upon the same frequency at the same time, wouldn't it? Understand that, to some degree, that may occur, but, But, by definition, they will, by being other civilizations, be on a slightly different frequency. Otherwise, you would be part of the same civilization, having different viewpoints, different aspects, different facets in that way, which is, in a sense, possible, yes. But you would recognize it as one civilization, in a sense, in a sense. Right. That's like each of us vibranes different frequency in between. Yes. Otherwise, we wouldn't see each one. separately. Yes, very good. Right. There will be, in your terms of time. Few more of your minutes. Question. There will be in your terms of time. A few more of your minutes. Question. Can you have ice cream on your planet? I want to ask them. Did you ask them? No, thank you. Interesting. Here. I'm going to hear, John. I'm worried. That again. That again. For the vibration of ourselves, our understanding of ourselves at this time, there will be again a consumption more of what you would understand to be the fruit and the vegetable. Also, the consumption of the idea.

more of your minutes. Question. Can you have ice cream on your planet? I want to ask them. Did you ask them? No, thank you. Interesting. Here. I'm going to hear, John. I'm worried. That again. That again. For the vibration of ourselves, our understanding of ourselves at this time, there will be again a consumption more of what you would understand to be the fruit and the vegetable. Also, the consumption of the idea. that has been created within the mass consciousness of a, I'll say, organic idea, which is in and of itself separate from what you turn to be the natural growing fruit and vegetable, but it grows naturally, but is created from the mass consciousness. Again, so that in that way it was simply a projection from ourselves, in a more direct sense, and there will be, for the most part, again, no need to consume the naturally growing consciousness of the fruit. of the fruit and vegetable. What about the serious civilization? What do they eat? Energy. Understandsively, they fluctuate within ideas of time. The fluctuations in and of themselves provide the sustaining idea. Yeah. I've heard stories there have been people on this earth plane who have been able, a few, been able to just live on energy also without eating, and they said, that they were just demonstrating that ability that it wasn't necessarily right, that they weren't saying they were all going to be like that, but they were just showing . Thank you. Question. Do you look like the people on the Pleiades in the Pleiades civilization? Similar. Not quite. What's the different? Again, rely, as we have described in that way ourselves, we will be, I will say, approximately of average, of average height five feet. Skin coloration will be the major, as you say, difference. For hours in that way, it's white to whitish gray. You follow me. And what's there? More along your own line. Oh, okay. Do you have different variation skin like we have black people? Not and much. I see. In that, we have long since in that way, integrated throughout. Pleiating can walk on Earth without being recognized, more or less. Yes. In a sense, as you understand the physical description. Can you tell us anything about the interactions with Pleadies, or do you leave that for their emissary, so to speak, to Hamel? For right now, allow me to say the specifics in that way, need not be commented upon. Uh-huh. I had another question. You know, when I asked a question a few weeks ago about, a few weeks ago about Lazarus and also a number of times when people asked questions having to do with some of their consciousness. And then you pause for a while. Are you communicating with that being and finding out what they want to say? In a sense. Not quite as literally as you understand it, but in a sense. Sort of like...

You know, when I asked a question a few weeks ago about, a few weeks ago about Lazarus and also a number of times when people asked questions having to do with some of their consciousness. And then you pause for a while. Are you communicating with that being and finding out what they want to say? In a sense. Not quite as literally as you understand it, but in a sense. Sort of like... It is more, I'll say. We checking with the vibration of the mass consciousness and the purpose unfolding at the time with regard to any particular idea within it. Yes. Uh-huh. Okay. Okay. I have another question. I was the thing to a tape where Tom was the chairman's head. Yes. Yes. And the voice manifestation, some of the words, the way they were said, and the tone and the everything sounded very much like yours, and yours sounds very much like animus too. and I was just curious about that, is there some particular point or something that all of you flow your consciousness or anything? To some degree there is that interaction, but also understand, but to a great degree it is also, I'll say, part and parcel, of the idea contained within, or say the consciousness of the channels themselves. You follow me? Not exactly. Not exactly. you are receiving a translation for a translation device and channels. In that way, there is a similarity within the experience of how they choose in that way to relate to the idea of the communication. Therefore, much of the translation will be similar in that way in terms of the effect. It's like the way the words are said and the emphasis on certain words, even from Tom to a Daryl. Yes. To some degree, it was a word. represent the idea of the blending of those consciousnesses as well as the blending of our consciousnesses. You follow me? In other words, there is the blending of the physical consciousnesses within the channels themselves in that way, in the purpose of interacting and forming the idea of the web or network or interaction of all of the different events taking place. Also, there is the communication between ourselves and what would turn to be the other consciousness that channel through the physical channels. Both ideas will create to some degree the sense of similarity. I see. Okay. Oh, thank you. I mean your communication like with Lazarus and all those other people that channel? To some degree. Mm-hmm. But also the awareness of the channels themselves of each other. Those particulars who weren't speaking at now, right? Yes. Yes. Okay. Bashar, this Wednesday group that just started tonight, is there any possible outline that you might have for us in any, is there any kind of a format at all? Only that I will say simply.

mean your communication like with Lazarus and all those other people that channel? To some degree. Mm-hmm. But also the awareness of the channels themselves of each other. Those particulars who weren't speaking at now, right? Yes. Yes. Okay. Bashar, this Wednesday group that just started tonight, is there any possible outline that you might have for us in any, is there any kind of a format at all? Only that I will say simply. It will be understood very quickly within the energy of this group that life, living is the only process necessary. Got it. So it will be spontaneity every session. Yes. Great. Thank you. We will say, again simply, that the sharing of consciousness in that way is and can be an indication for you of the extension of your own consciousness into all the different levels of yourself. Allow yourself simply within the understanding of the unfoldment of your own life, within the spontaneous creation that you are to understand that the support, service to the idea of all that is, is automatic support and service to yourself. We will say, thank you very much. We will say, good evening. Good evening. You know. Thank you. Thank you.