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Test test. This is Wednesday the 27th at 11 a.m. for Jamil. Are I saying that right? Go. Go. Okay. Enjoy. Thank you. Thank you. I. Okay. I'm here. I'm . . . . . . . I don't think a day of this day of this name of your time. How are you? How are you? Perfect. You may proceed however your imagination so desires. What would you like to discuss with us this day? I'd like to start off by making a statement and then a question. Alright. Okay. My father was in the military, and my mother, she was in the military. My grandfather was in the military. Yes. And a lot of growing up, a lot of strange stuff happened in our family that didn't reflect the nature of what the, usually a military. usually a military-based family goes through sometimes. Uh, well, just growing up, um, you know, my mother, she, uh, she, uh, she had a female escort services, and my father, um, he led kind of a street type of life, and... Is this outside the military? Well, I guess that happens, too, in the military. Oh, right? I, well, I, I, I can't, I've got, a lot of my research and the alternative research area, I'm wondering if somehow, I've been being, somehow, since my birth, monitored. Well, in some senses, yes, not necessarily to the extent you might think, or necessarily always in the way you might think, but to some sense, in certain kinds of military families, and I, shall we say, is kept on family members for a variety of reasons. In particular, has anybody been looking out for me? looking out for you. Yeah, I've, but growing up, I ran into some trouble with my behavior. Yes. As a, you know, as a Jew would out growing up, and it's a miracle I'm even here right now. All right. And I think that, uh, somewhere along the line, somebody, you know, within the human realm has been observing me possibly and keeping an eye on me. Again, from time to time, but also remember, of course, you have assistance from the non-physical realm. Are, are those? Those people in California or Michigan are which, the human realm. They will go from city to city. They are not necessarily based in either place. They are based elsewhere. So if I wanted to become a creative consultant or something to do with the entertainment industry, with those same. people assist me in a positive way? I mean, in my aspiration to go about that? Is your aspiration to do something that they would find, not to their liking? It's possible. Such as. Wow. Doing, doing something that would keep me... Be specific. Okay. You have some intention of releasing some sort of information in the public domain that you believe they might not necessarily approve of?
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with the entertainment industry, with those same. people assist me in a positive way? I mean, in my aspiration to go about that? Is your aspiration to do something that they would find, not to their liking? It's possible. Such as. Wow. Doing, doing something that would keep me... Be specific. Okay. You have some intention of releasing some sort of information in the public domain that you believe they might not necessarily approve of? No, no, I just wanted to kind of break, I just feel like I'm under some sort of thumb, and I kind of want to break away from that and do my own thing. If you were truly under someone's thumb, you would not be capable of breaking away. That's true. So if you understand that you are capable of breaking away, you're not necessarily under someone's thumb in the way that you mean it. It may be possible that someone will still keep an eye out on you. Nevertheless, if you are moving in the direction of what you believe to be your highest joy and you really maintain that frequency in your life, you will not necessarily, in that sense, find that it'll be possible for anyone to truly interfere with you. Okay, thank you. Do you understand? Yes, I understand. All right. Okay, recently I have been studying the 1960s. Yes. And I was studying, you know, Hollywood and the Los Angeles area of the 1960s. Yes. And I came across the man. name. Some people, I've been getting positive responses out of my research of it, but some people may see it as kind of like a fear-based thing if they choose to. His name was Charles Manson. Yes. He lives in the area? Yes. And lately I've been looking into the things that happened with him, and it seems as though he had a similar situation where some of the things he did, it seems like he had people who may have been aiding and assisting him in the things he was doing. that particular time in space net era that he was unaware of? There are a couple of political connections that a lot of people are not aware of that are connected to the individual you have named. We are not necessarily allowed to go into that. Okay. Nevertheless, the point simply being is that you are talking about creating some sort of project that involves talking about this individual. Is that what you're saying? No, no, no. I was doing my own research. I had been studying secret societies and stuff like this for a long time. Yeah. For what purpose, though, is what we are asking? You have some intention of disseminating information about these subjects. I used to want to, but now I don't feel as excited about it anymore. Then what are you excited about in terms of moving in this direction?
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that what you're saying? No, no, no. I was doing my own research. I had been studying secret societies and stuff like this for a long time. Yeah. For what purpose, though, is what we are asking? You have some intention of disseminating information about these subjects. I used to want to, but now I don't feel as excited about it anymore. Then what are you excited about in terms of moving in this direction? For it really doesn't necessarily serve you if you are talking about a subject you really have no intention of acting on. What do you intend to act on with regard to going into your entertainment business? I was interested in the 1960s. I like the colors and the frequencies and stuff. So what do you wish to do with that? I want to work on, like, costume design and work, um, in this era right now, I see that colors, like, brighter colors are starting to come back into, and I want it to be a part of. that into putting all right well what's stopping you i don't feel quite like i've never really i've never been to college and i've never had a long-term job and all right but can you not necessarily either learn or find some classes that can teach you what you need to know or find someone with whom you can apprentice who can teach you what you need to know yeah yeah i can so i will what are you going to do about that then i want to make sure that i do what i need to do to take me directly if this is really exciting to you it is then you will go through whatever doorway is possible you will use your imagination and you will use your intuition and you will act on whatever opportunities seem appropriate and maybe even create some opportunities for yourself that may not at first seem evident but the point is is that when someone is truly excited about something they will make whatever doorways or find whatever doorways they need to nothing will stop yes yes that's true all right so that's what you will do yes yes i had been doing that and it's just i figured coming here you know i would gather some some more insight into that all right in which i have thank you then thank you i'll make i'm more excited about it now all right then then use that excitement and stay in that state of excitement because only from that state of excitement will you be capable of actually perceiving whatever opportunities may actually exist for you in that area of endeavor of course remember you cannot perceive what you're not the vibration of so there may be opportunities all around you but they will remain invisible to you if you don't remain in the state of being the state of energy frequency that is representative of you being
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of excitement because only from that state of excitement will you be capable of actually perceiving whatever opportunities may actually exist for you in that area of endeavor of course remember you cannot perceive what you're not the vibration of so there may be opportunities all around you but they will remain invisible to you if you don't remain in the state of being the state of energy frequency that is representative of you being that person you understand yes in a sense it's like you have to actually be the person before you are the person makes sense by by my thoughts and my actions by your beliefs by your energy state by the way you go about doing things do them in the way that person you say you wish to become would do them then you'll be doing things the way that person would do things and in doing things the way that person would do things you will be the energy state of that person and by being the energy state of that person you will attract the things that kind of person would attract and that's been happening to me i've been having synchronicities and that's how it works right so just keep doing that It feels sometimes, though, that when I keep doing it, it doesn't seem like it's having the snowball effect that I wish it to have. Don't wish it to have that. Remember that the entire formula of acting on your highest excitement is to act on the thing at any given moment that contains the most excitement, acting on it as far as you can possibly act on it to the best of your ability, taking it as far as you can, until you can take it no further, and then acting on the next most exciting thing. even if it seems unconnected, as long as it contains the highest excitement at that moment of all the things you can act on. But remember that the third part of the formula is to act on their highest excitement with absolutely zero assumption, insistence, or expectation as to how you think the outcome ought to be, or where you think it ought to take it, because your physical mind isn't capable of understanding where that might be or how you will get there. The only thing you need to do is continue to act on whatever opportunity or situation. or circumstance contains the highest excitement, knowing it will lead you where you need to be led, even though it may on the surface not appear to be doing so. It's the excitement that tells you that it is leading you in the correct direction, not its surface appearance. Okay. Understand? I understand.
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or how you will get there. The only thing you need to do is continue to act on whatever opportunity or situation. or circumstance contains the highest excitement, knowing it will lead you where you need to be led, even though it may on the surface not appear to be doing so. It's the excitement that tells you that it is leading you in the correct direction, not its surface appearance. Okay. Understand? I understand. So, when you have acted on something that you say represents your excitement, and you have taken it as far as you can, and you can see nothing else you can do on that, just look around for the next thing that contains the highest excitement. And no matter how simple it seems, and no matter how simple it seems, and no matter how disconnected it may appear from the thing you were doing a moment ago. If that's the thing that is actually the most exciting thing you'd imagine doing at that moment, do it, with absolutely no assumption of how it should look, where it should take you, or anything. Just act on it to the best of your ability, knowing that the excitement is telling you it's connected to every other expression of your excitement, and it will show you that through synchronicity, that it is connected, even though your mind may not be able to fathom how that might be so. So, in a sense, it goes back to, you know, I'll always be where I need to be. Yes. No matter what, if it's one second, it's completely different from the next second, it's all okay because it's all... If it's all connected by the threat of excitement, then you are exactly where you need to be. Right. Okay. Excitement is the compass needle that points to your true north, your magnetic norm. As long as you are acting on your highest excitement, you will always be a little. aligned with that compass needle, the vibration of your true self. I want to ask a question. Yes. Okay, about, uh, um, have I ever been abducted? You have some experiences of that nature, though not exactly as you might classically think. But there is some association to this, yes. Can you go into what type of group or what type of... Let's just. just say that your association has to do with the fact that you are familiar with the program from another point of view, from the military point of view, and that sometimes you will aid and assist in giving a perspective and a point of view and allowing vibrational calibrations to be made through you. give those on the other side of the abduction of gender a better understanding of something going on in your society and how certain factions in your society might choose to relate to the entire program. Does this have to do with the planet Saturn? Not in the way you think, no.
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you will aid and assist in giving a perspective and a point of view and allowing vibrational calibrations to be made through you. give those on the other side of the abduction of gender a better understanding of something going on in your society and how certain factions in your society might choose to relate to the entire program. Does this have to do with the planet Saturn? Not in the way you think, no. Or, um, or the moon? There is some connections to the concept of the moon. There is some connections to the concept of the moon. Germans? Would anything do with German people? In some sense, but again, perhaps not as you think. And remember that as vague as you are being will be as vague as an answer you can. I'm sorry. Okay. I, well, I see, I feel positive, I feel positive and upbeat, but I know that the universe works, you know, there's a yin and a yang. Yeah, is. Like I'm, I feel like I'm kind of, am I a neutral type of spirit? a neutrality? You have the ability to be neutral in that sense, but you also, thus then, from the neutral place, have the ability to choose the positive. Because my life has been both really negative and really positive. I've had both experience going to have. Yes, as most people on your planet do, choose to experience, so that they can understand which they prefer, and thus then from that point forward, always understand that they can choose to experience only the positive, even though they may simply address. objectively recognize that there is negative energy present. Right. This means you have to express it. Right. And what you said earlier about, you know, because sometimes I find that my thoughts, I'll be thinking stuff like I'm communicating to somebody, somebody else that they're picking up information from me. Yes. And then I'll be sitting there thinking, well, why do I feel like I'm talking to somebody? Because sometimes you probably are. And this has something to do with possibly the military deal? Not necessarily. It may be other beings as well. well. Are there, like loving positive type of, I mean, besides, I mean, you guys too. Oh, thank you. But you guys too. And I almost, earlier when I was coming here, I was on a Greyhound bus coming here, and I almost got into a fight, sort of like a fight with this guy. Why? He was younger and he, you know, he was kind of like running. He was telling jokes a lot of stuff. Yes. And he woke me up. Yes. And why did you get into a fight? Well, no. No, it wasn't a physical fight. It was verbal. All right. Why did you almost get into a verbal fight? Because I felt like he, I was sleeping, and he woke me up, and he had all this funny, you know, funny.
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you know, he was kind of like running. He was telling jokes a lot of stuff. Yes. And he woke me up. Yes. And why did you get into a fight? Well, no. No, it wasn't a physical fight. It was verbal. All right. Why did you almost get into a verbal fight? Because I felt like he, I was sleeping, and he woke me up, and he had all this funny, you know, funny. But he was trying to say it in a mean way to me, but it was funny, and I felt attacked by it. All right. Well, again, it's up to you to allow yourself to understand that regardless of what anyone else's intention is, you don't have to experience what they're offering you in a negative way. That's your choice. Yeah, but at the same, right, of course. course, well. No, you're right. You're right. I didn't have to say anything. I could have just. Even if you said something, the point I'm making is that you didn't have to feel attacked. If you feel attacked, then you are choosing that experience for yourself. You are choosing to align with their intention to attack you. You can recognize they may have the intention to attack attack without you having to feel attacked. These are two different things, two different energy states. Right. So, it's up to you to decide that even though you may neutrally recognize what someone's intention toward you may be, in no way, shape, or form does that determine how you choose to feel in response to it. Okay. So that's a lesson for you. I got one more. I got, okay. And my actions now today are a lot different than it used to be. I understand. Well, I remain a free person. What do you mean by that? Well, I had, I had some situations before in my past where I put myself in a situation to be, growing up as a juvenile, in juvenile homes and jail and stuff like I had. I don't think I ever really, you know, hurt anybody in the sense, you know, it was more, you know, like, stealing, things, you know, smoking weed, things. All right. Why would you choose, in that sense, to do the things that? that you know in your society would have a reaction to limit your freedom. Well, it's not that I'm doing them anymore. Well, then why are you asking the question? Will you remain a free person? I'm just wondering, will my past ever come back to bite me? You know, like, well, the things that, well, what you put out comes back? Are you the same person? No, I'm a different person. Then how can you have the same past? I remember you saying that the future and the past changes on the now. It does. Because the future and the past don't exist per se. They are all.
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free person? I'm just wondering, will my past ever come back to bite me? You know, like, well, the things that, well, what you put out comes back? Are you the same person? No, I'm a different person. Then how can you have the same past? I remember you saying that the future and the past changes on the now. It does. Because the future and the past don't exist per se. They are all. all, a, in a sense, random probability assortment. You can connect to any variety of pasts and futures. Now is all that exists. And what you call the past and what you call the future are just different versions of now. So you decide, based on who you are, now, in what you call the present, you thus then, by your choices here and now, create connections to other parallel realities that from your linear space-time perspective, you tend to view or label as the past or the future. Well, in the past, I went and I joined the military. So? The guard, and I know, and, uh, well, okay, do they know I was going to do that? Who? The people you were saying, uh, the military association I had, um, from the human perspective. There was a degree of, probability right that they were aware of that you might but so far again what you choose to connect to and what you choose to draw upon to define yourself in the present is all that counts in terms of what you will continue to experience so it's like it's all based on it doesn't have anything to do with any of that stuff it's all based on what I decide right now the only thing it has to do with is the connections you choose to make. Right. Because you're making those connections and creating that state of being now. I understand. It's not coming from the past. It's all just reflections of who, you know. It's how you're defining yourself in the present. Right. And how you define yourself in the present gives you the experience of connecting to something in another parallel reality that you're calling the past. And that's been happening. because I'll go through phases where I'll think nothing about positive thoughts. Yes. And, you know, sometimes I need my mother. When I talk to her, we get into arguments and stuff. Yeah. And I try to respond as positively as possible. Yes. And I notice that positive stuff comes out of that. Only I only get positive. Of course. And then again, you can also learn to allow yourself to understand. It's not just about positive thoughts. It's about understanding. It's about beliefs and definitions. It's about knowing that that's the state. of being you prefer and thus always coming from that state of being, knowing that everything that happens is serving you in a positive way.
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And I notice that positive stuff comes out of that. Only I only get positive. Of course. And then again, you can also learn to allow yourself to understand. It's not just about positive thoughts. It's about understanding. It's about beliefs and definitions. It's about knowing that that's the state. of being you prefer and thus always coming from that state of being, knowing that everything that happens is serving you in a positive way. And thus, then you don't need to get into any kind of an argument. Right. So, can I ask a question about underground civilizations? If you're weird. I was doing some research and I had heard that, you know, there's different types of, like, people that may be, you know, inhabiting, like, underground civilizations. Like underground cities? No. This is a misunderstanding that people on your planet have. Sometimes people will find certain kinds of openings, gateways, tunnels, doorways, vortices, portals, into other dimensional realities. Many of these happen to be in the Earth, because it's a natural for a planet to have these kinds of gateways in its structure. But when they enter these, physically, areas like caves or tunnels, and they go through these dimensional portals, they don't realize that they're not actually physically in their reality anymore. So they think that these so-called underground civilizations in the so-called hollow earth actually are physically in the earth, and they're not. They're in another reality altogether. But your people think they are in the physical earth, because they don't realize they've actually crossed the threshold from one reality to another. Okay. You understand? I understand. So, while some of these experiences that have been reported are real experiences, they are not accurately being described in terms of where their location actually is. How is, is there somebody in your civilization named Ancor? We don't have names. Bashar is not my name. It's a word in your languages that means messenger. It's based on the channels, shall we say, cultural background. Right. So we don't have names. So in your civilization, are you in your ship right now? I am. And I am over your area on your planet called Sedona. Okay. What is it like for you to, um, to observe humans? Do you learn... It's exciting. But I'm not just observing. I'm obviously a... interacting. Right. Right. But we observe so that we can be of assistance in helping to adjust energy, in helping individuals and collectives go through different kinds of transformations and transitions, because we are answering the invitation that all of you have sent out for the idea of contact. So these interactions are one of the ways my civilization actually initiates first contact with another world. Do I have a future self in your civilization? You pop in from time to time. You're not a permanent, but you will pop in from time to time.
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individuals and collectives go through different kinds of transformations and transitions, because we are answering the invitation that all of you have sent out for the idea of contact. So these interactions are one of the ways my civilization actually initiates first contact with another world. Do I have a future self in your civilization? You pop in from time to time. You're not a permanent, but you will pop in from time to time. Where, do I, I was wondering myself before I am here now, do I have a life from the area of the 60s and 70s? Yes. Who was that then? course understand when you say who was I then. It wasn't you. Right. You are this you. Right. But you are cross-connecting to the idea of a parallel reality that coexist simultaneously right now that lives in what you recognize as the 60s, even though that exists concurrently with your reality now. Do you understand that so far? Yes, yes. All right. In cross-connecting, in order to draw upon information and energy from that era as it serves you in this life, as you wish to apply it in this life. You are cross-connecting to someone who is a kind of a journalist looking for information, looking to understand the structure of society, looking to reveal things people may be unaware of. Is it a man? Yes. How old is he? In what you would be? call the 30s. From the 20s to the 30s is where you are connecting most strongly in this individual's life. Connected to the kind of literature or journalism you would have referred to in that era as the free press. Can I have a name? Randolph. Last name, please? That is the last name. Oh, can I have a first name? No. Okay. Okay. Okay. Did, Randolph, was he, was he in Los Angeles? Traveled between what you call your Los Angeles and San Francisco area quite frequently, but also to a few other areas. How did he pass away? I mean, transcend from the human form into spirit again. What you would call an automobile accident. Okay. Am I, am I, based on who I am now? Am I similar to that person that was living that life then? You have some similarities, but you are cross-connected to many other lives as well. Okay. Some of the similarities have to do with the idea of your interest in that era and the idea of wanting to investigate and find out and find out things and put forth information to some degree. See, that's what I've been doing about the secret societies and stuff, but every time I do it, it seems like people, you know, people take it as like they don't want to have anything to do with it. They don't want to know what's going out about anything like that, and it's all negative and stuff.
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of wanting to investigate and find out and find out things and put forth information to some degree. See, that's what I've been doing about the secret societies and stuff, but every time I do it, it seems like people, you know, people take it as like they don't want to have anything to do with it. They don't want to know what's going out about anything like that, and it's all negative and stuff. Well, individuals can choose what they prefer to listen to, but the idea simply is again that if individuals do not wish to become, in your terms, caught up in those ideas, is, then they will generally seeking other information. But the idea is that still doesn't mean that that's relevant for this life fully. It may be something that you are doing that you need to form a background for yourself in for other things that you will eventually do, but that doesn't mean that you will fully take on the same kinds of things that that individual did in his life. Okay. Do, myself after this life? Do I have... Again, there is no absolutely... Well, my parallel, do I have my parallel representation after this? You have some representations. Are they... Are they... It's not just one, you know. Right. It never is, usually just one, in any direction. The one closest to this? Yeah. Oh, what would that be like? There are several probabilities. all based on what I'm doing with my life now. No, not completely. Oh. There are obviously some connections, or we wouldn't be picking up on them at all, if there was no cross-connections to this life. Are they human? I mean, the more... Yes. Are they good? Are they good? Well, is it like an uplifting type of... Is it in a higher-frequency-based? Yes, they are all very interesting. Can you share a little bit about that? a little bit about that? One would seem to be some sort of college professor, university professor, of a sort, of a sort, although it's not exactly the way that you express that now. This would seem to be in somewhere around the time frame, again, all things being existing now, but linearly speaking, in what you may be in what you may be. in what you might call the 22nd century. Okay. How, I would, my greatest excitement right now, besides being involved in projects on the 1960s, like higher type colors and stuff, would be some sort of interdimensional time travel, but I know that we don't have the, you know, I can't do it at the store or anything. Yes. So. Um, then stick to what you are capable of acting on. Right. Remember that you're shifting into parallel realities all the time naturally anyway. That's what creates your illusion of time to begin with. So in that sense, you are always time traveling. Right. Because that's all time travel is.
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of interdimensional time travel, but I know that we don't have the, you know, I can't do it at the store or anything. Yes. So. Um, then stick to what you are capable of acting on. Right. Remember that you're shifting into parallel realities all the time naturally anyway. That's what creates your illusion of time to begin with. So in that sense, you are always time traveling. Right. Because that's all time travel is. You never actually go back into your own past. That's not possible. Are humans on Mars right now? Are some humans from Earth? There have been a couple of experiments. but it's not what you think and isn't anywhere to the degree that many people on your planet have said or speculated. Okay. Okay, I was talking to a friend of mine, his name was Jordan Maxwell. Yes. And he, I was wondering, I was wondering, he said he had saw back in the 1950s here, I think it was somewhere in Hollywood, a UFO. Yeah. And I was wondering, is it possible that those were time travelers? Many of what people on your planet see and call UFOs are from parallel realities that you would consider to be the future of the past. Right. And he was saying that they had been watching him since he was a child, or at least that they had related that to him. Yes, in a sense. This is common. I was wondering, do I have that, like, do I have people, you know, being... I already totally... you have beings and other realities that in some sense are connected to you and watching and interacting to some degree with you. Do they like me? Do they like you? I mean, I know you guys do, but I mean, do the other ones, do they, how... Is it... Why would they be interacting with you at all if they didn't? Well, what... What do they feel about me? Like, how do they feel, how do they view me? They view you as an explorer, as someone who has chosen to extend their consciousness into the physical reality of Earth at this time, and they are fascinated by what it is you are discovering. So in that sense, let's say they appreciate what it is you've chosen to do. Who are they? I can't tell you that. Okay. Sorry. Well, okay. You don't have to apologize. Okay. What, um, will I ever, do I ever meet them? Or, you know, another... You will come to know who they are in time. Okay. But right now that would be highly premature. Okay. You need to become far more of yourself first. And do they assist me in some ways? They do. Okay. Have I ever met any of you? Have I ever met you? Not directly, except in this fashion. Right. What do you think of me? Do you know anything other?
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them? Or, you know, another... You will come to know who they are in time. Okay. But right now that would be highly premature. Okay. You need to become far more of yourself first. And do they assist me in some ways? They do. Okay. Have I ever met any of you? Have I ever met you? Not directly, except in this fashion. Right. What do you think of me? Do you know anything other? Why do you care what we think of you? Why do you care so much about what others think of you? Who cares what others think of you? The important question is what do you think of yourself? Don't base your value on what others think of you. Because then you have devalued yourself. Right. So who cares what others think of you? It just seems interesting to... Right. Well, again, obviously, in our civilization, we extend unconditional love to you all. Or we wouldn't be interacting with you if we didn't enjoy you. enjoy you if we didn't appreciate you. Okay. Because that's how we function. We don't interact with things that are not the vibration that are at least in some way, shape, or form representative of our joy, our excitement, and our love. So my frequency has to be somewhat positive, I mean a higher... Obviously it has to, to some degree, be reflective, or we wouldn't be having this interaction at all. But I was drinking some alcohol last night. some alcohol last night. So? And, yeah, that's what I was saying. I was saying so, because I used to drink alcohol, I used to go out and do things that I wasn't, looking back now I'm not proud of. All right, well, do you do those same things now? No. Well, then? It's not, yeah, I don't associate... Well then? Right. Then it's okay. I think as long as I don't indulge too much into it, it's okay. The idea, again, is that as you change your frequency to become more, of who it is you prefer to be, then your behaviors will also align with that. And it won't make sense for you to actually choose to do anything in your behavior that isn't aligned with that. It will simply become natural to choose things that are more in alignment with that energy frequency. And you won't choose to do things that are out of alignment with it, because it won't be who you prefer to be. It's that simple. Right. I know what you're saying that My neighbors, where I come from, in Muskegon, the Norton Shores area? Yes. Are any of them, like, interdimensional? I can't tell you. Yes. Okay. Most likely, no. Okay. But I can't tell you specifically. Okay. Okay, I had met this girl down the street, and she had red hair. Yes. And I keep coming across women with red hair. Yes. Well, what does it signify for you?
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Right. I know what you're saying that My neighbors, where I come from, in Muskegon, the Norton Shores area? Yes. Are any of them, like, interdimensional? I can't tell you. Yes. Okay. Most likely, no. Okay. But I can't tell you specifically. Okay. Okay, I had met this girl down the street, and she had red hair. Yes. And I keep coming across women with red hair. Yes. Well, what does it signify for you? I'm not like, I'm not sure. I have an idea that, like, the red hair is kind of, you know, it's, it kind of means it's a fiery type of person. All right. And so, why do you seem to be attracting that? Maybe because I'm not such a fiery person? So you believe that it's a reflection or a symbol of balance for you? I'm not sure. That's the thing. Then you will find out eventually. This is your process, obviously. Right. We're not going to spill your beans. Right. Thank you. Nevertheless. Obviously, obviously, when you have a... any kind of a synchronicity like that, you're obviously reflecting something to yourself that you believe is important for you to know. Right. So enjoy the process. Doesn't sound like it's an unenjoyable process. No, it's not. It's enjoyable. All right, then. Enjoy it. And see what happens. And just open up to the idea of whatever insights might come. Okay. Okay. So, like, gray aliens? Yes. There are actually many different types. But nevertheless, we understand that you people tend to lump them into one. Do I have any connection to... I already told you you did. Right. But not necessarily in the way that you think. Right. Okay. So the Earth right now, as it is, are we in a position right now from where I'm, my perspective, in the now? Are we, we, we're, after the 2012, we came to a more positive, like, collective? Yes. Are those, like, type of, uh, like, I kind of see, I kind of, I kind of, my studies that led me to believe that, like, the planet Saturn has to do with the, the darker type of energy that's been. It depends on how you look at it. Remember, everything is a reflective symbol, and everything is fundamentally neutral and has no built-in meaning. And everything is a reflection. Well, I mean, like, the ring makers, the people who are making the rings. Making the ring. Like, the, isn't there a civilization making rings around, like, Saturn and Uranus? The rings are a natural phenomenon. Oh, I was reading this book called The Ringmakers, and it showed, like, ships that were making the rings around Saturn. Why would they do that? I thought it was, like, the planet, um, the rings were probably, maybe satellite, like satellites that were reflecting information from different dimensions. There are many beings that can use... use rings that way.
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a civilization making rings around, like, Saturn and Uranus? The rings are a natural phenomenon. Oh, I was reading this book called The Ringmakers, and it showed, like, ships that were making the rings around Saturn. Why would they do that? I thought it was, like, the planet, um, the rings were probably, maybe satellite, like satellites that were reflecting information from different dimensions. There are many beings that can use... use rings that way. And I'm not saying that there haven't been instances when beings haven't engineered planets for their use in a similar fashion. But in this case, no, what you're picking up on is the possibility that there are beings who do such things. That doesn't mean that this applies directly to Saturn. Nevertheless, again, there are different levels of consciousness associated with that planet, and it is reflective as a similar. of many different kinds of things represented in your collective consciousness as a group of beings. How you relate to it is up to you, but don't always take these things absolutely physically, literally. Sometimes they are just energetically symbolic. Okay. And you can use them energetically in a certain way, but that doesn't mean that you're getting a literal history. Okay. I was wondering a little bit about my father. Yes. Is he reincarnated? Yes. In the way that you linearly mean this idea, generally speaking, he has chosen other lives, yes. But again, remember that from his perspective, he understands that it's not literally him. Even though you can create the experience to make it seem as if that is so, all lives exist at the same time. Therefore, when you say, has he chosen another life, that's a euphemism. What you're saying is, has he chosen to have that kind of an experience, even though that's not literally mechanically the way the universe and creation are structured. So the answer is, yes, he's chosen to have that kind of an experience. That doesn't mean that he has literally become someone else. Right. But he is cross-connecting to other lives in a certain way, yes. That's interesting. Do I, uh, what was I say? Do I have a connection to Lemuria? Yes, to some degree. Not as strong as your connection to Atlantean times. Oh, wow. Can you tell me a little bit about that? A landian connection? Well, it spans a few thousand years and several different kinds of life connections. Some of which have to do with connecting two dolphins and serious energy. Some of which have to do simply with life at the time, being a merchant, a traveler, going to different countries you now call it European, visiting the Americas at that time, since one of the main islands of Atlantis was in what you now call the Caribbean area. Okay. Let's say. I had visited Thailand in Germany before. I was wondering, you know, was I taking up on old connections?
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dolphins and serious energy. Some of which have to do simply with life at the time, being a merchant, a traveler, going to different countries you now call it European, visiting the Americas at that time, since one of the main islands of Atlantis was in what you now call the Caribbean area. Okay. Let's say. I had visited Thailand in Germany before. I was wondering, you know, was I taking up on old connections? Like you were saying Germany is in Europe and you were saying I was traveling. Yes, but that's not an Atlantean connection. That's a connection in another time stream from something else. Right. What was that all about that time stream? Well, you in that sense are cross-connected to certain lives that actually did exist. in what you might call secret societies in Germany in the past, in what you would call the 1930s and earlier. The Illuminati? Well, that's a euphemism that many people on your planet use, and it's not necessarily what many people think, but it would be something that would be connected to that concept to some degree. The Jesuits? No. More the idea of what people on your planet refer to as the Bilderbergers. I was one at them? You were not. I mean, well, you are cross-connecting to a life that exists in that society. Of a person who was in. And again, the way it's, shall we say, panning out in this life is to aid and assist you in the idea of your interest in having investigated those kinds of society. Can you give me one name of the person? No. Okay. The people who are associated with the builder burgers now, would they be aware of that themselves? Would they be aware of what, specifically? Would they be aware that there's other people that have incarnations here who are once a part of that association? Some of them understand that concept, many of them do not. But none of them know I was ever a part of them? No, not specifically. Okay. So in a sense, I have all these other experiences with other representations and realities, and it's all that you are cross-connecting to some of those other experiences, yes. they're all aiding and assisting me in the now. You are drawing upon whatever information aids and assists you in the now. Okay. Not everything about all those lives is necessary for you. And remember that others are drawing upon your experiences to aid and assist them as well. I was meditating on the SSINI symbol. And this is a real thing that happened to me. I broke, I don't know if I went to a different dimension, but an entity started like coming around me. I mean, not bothering me. But I was frightened by it. Why? Because I could feel it. It felt like I was half in its world and half in my world. All right.
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and assist them as well. I was meditating on the SSINI symbol. And this is a real thing that happened to me. I broke, I don't know if I went to a different dimension, but an entity started like coming around me. I mean, not bothering me. But I was frightened by it. Why? Because I could feel it. It felt like I was half in its world and half in my world. All right. I understand, but why is that frightening? It was like touching me and doing something to me. And so why is that frightening? I was, you know, I was... You obviously chose to shift your energy to make yourself available and recognizable by an entity in another reality. So since you chose to do that, what would you expect would happen but a response? Can you tell me exactly exactly? Exactly the nature of the entity? The nature of the entity is something that we're familiar with, that is interdimensional, as you say, and was curious to understand why you were sticking your nose in its reality. Oh. Thus then, it perceived what you were doing as an invitation to interact. Was curious about you in the same way. Obviously, you were curious about exploring its dimension, its realm. It is associated with us, but isn't exactly us. It's like a, is it some sort of animal or something? Like, well, you might call it that, but it isn't really. It's what on our world we call the VEQUA. The VEQUA is like a primal form, a primitive form, of what was used to create us. But it exists in a slightly different dimensional reality. But it is possibly one of the first things you might encounter in coming into our, sphere of influence because they have the ability to exist in a slightly different dimensional realm. So I wasn't trying to hurt me. No. I got scared to rip up on my bike. That's simply because the vibration pulled to the surface, the things that you yourself haven't come to terms with within yourself or integrated yet. You're feeling the fear of your own vibrations that you've separated from yourself. That's what I was thinking at the time, too. I was thinking that, you know, I'm running for myself. Yes. Right. Exactly. Because the vibration, the higher frequency of that being reflected to you, those fears within you. Okay. I want to bring one more question back to the guy I was asking about the Charles Manson guy. Yes. He has spent a lot of his life in reformatory schools and jails in prison. Yes. And I had gone through, you know, prison and jail. All right. But not to the extent that he did. Yes, and so. Are we, am I connected with him in some way? Well, obviously. Otherwise, how would you know about it? Well, I mean, you understand. there's no such thing as accidents, yes? I know. I know that.
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He has spent a lot of his life in reformatory schools and jails in prison. Yes. And I had gone through, you know, prison and jail. All right. But not to the extent that he did. Yes, and so. Are we, am I connected with him in some way? Well, obviously. Otherwise, how would you know about it? Well, I mean, you understand. there's no such thing as accidents, yes? I know. I know that. And therefore, the connection may simply be that you attracted someone in your life that had information you required. The connection doesn't necessarily have to be any deeper than that, you know. Well, I know. Also, in some sense, his mother's name was Maddox, last name Maddox. Yes. My family, well, my father, he's black, but I recognize he has also European white blood, too, from the Rawls family because the slaves had interacted with the plantation owners, sometimes? Yes. But I'm wondering, am I genetically connected to that man? As we scan your energy, we find that there may be a remote possibility of a small genetic connection yet. Okay. But it's not very large. Right. It's very diluted. Diluted. So our lives are, do we share a similar type of life, in a sense that, you know, from a, because he, he was the type of person that, I mean, studying him, he made the most, he made the most out of the jail experience being in jail and being in re-reformatory, he seemed to, he seemed to, in some sense, prefer it compared to the You have some parallel similarities in your experiences in a way that was designed to reflect to each other what you need to know to decide who you wish to be. So he's providing you an opportunity to recognize that you have a chance and a choice to go in another direction. That's what I was thinking, because they just said they were going to put a Hollywood star for him on the Walk of Fame. The, you know, like the actors got the stars and stuff. Because? I don't know why they're doing it for him, because he used to be a musician. All right. And I think that maybe I came across this information about this person just so I could decide that I want to use my opportunity to lead a positive path. All right. Well, very often, you make connections and attract others into your life for the reason of giving yourself that reflection so that you can make that kind of a choice more easily by seeing more clearly who you are by giving yourself an example of who you are not. Right. And the only thing I think that I could ever get in my way at this point is, you know, the situation of... The only thing that can ever get in your way is you. There's absolutely nothing that can get in your way but you.
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that you can make that kind of a choice more easily by seeing more clearly who you are by giving yourself an example of who you are not. Right. And the only thing I think that I could ever get in my way at this point is, you know, the situation of... The only thing that can ever get in your way is you. There's absolutely nothing that can get in your way but you. I keep worrying about finances, like money. Why? Because at this point... And change your definition of abundance. Finance and money are not the only representations of abundance on your planet. By man. making them stand out, you're actually limiting the ways abundance can come to you. Right. So don't make them stand out. Just accept them as one of the ways in which abundance can express itself and know that it will express itself that way if it needs to. By relaxing your insistence on the idea of standing the money out above all other forms of abundance, you're actually closing the doors through which abundance could come in other forms. And you're actually limiting your ability to receive it even financially. By making it. finance stand out as more important than any other form of abundance. That's the paradox. Just let it be one of the ways. And know that if that's the path of least resistance for a particular expression, then that's the way it will come. And know that if it doesn't come that way, that's not necessarily the way it needs to come. Okay. And it may not be representative of the path of least resistance. So nothing will get in your way, except you and your definitions. Remember this. very important concept. No situation has built in struggle. No situation is inherently difficult. Only your definition of it and your relationship to it makes it appear difficult. Okay. But no situation has that built into it. Challenges are not by definition negative. Okay. So don't make them negative by having a negative definition of your relationship to that challenge. Okay. Okay. And then you won't experience it in a negative way. It's that simple. It's just physics. What you put out is what you get back. And there is no physical reality apart from your definition of it. It's just an experience of your own consciousness. It's just a reflection. Okay. So, okay, myself that comes into the society people's world at times? Yes. What is that like? I mean, myself... Do you pop in now and then to do a variety of things? Is it through dreams and stuff? Do I come in that way? I mean, my dreams? Well, in a sense, yes, I suppose you could say it that way, but the idea is that you simply went out of body, may pop in and take on a body temporarily. And then when you, quote unquote, wake up, the body disappears. Cool.
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myself... Do you pop in now and then to do a variety of things? Is it through dreams and stuff? Do I come in that way? I mean, my dreams? Well, in a sense, yes, I suppose you could say it that way, but the idea is that you simply went out of body, may pop in and take on a body temporarily. And then when you, quote unquote, wake up, the body disappears. Cool. I'll ask a question about Laurel Canyon area. Yes. During the 1960s, a lot of the musicians hung out in Laurel Canyon. Yes. By Laurel Canyon, Mulholland Drive, they're like underground structures where people hang out, like underneath the hills and stuff? There are a couple that people have made that are recessed into a couple of hills and what you might call a few underground bunkers, but that's about it as we scan the area. Nobody goes down there at parties and stuff like that. Well, sometimes they might. They might in a few areas, but they're not really that widespread, nor can they hold that many people. Is there a more positive group of people inhabiting that area now that, compared to what it may have things that may have been going on? Well, that depends upon your perspective. There are positive people in the area. There were positive people in the area then. Right. Well, there were some, you know, from time there's things that happen like human sacrifices and stuff. Yes. Well, obviously, those are not the positive people, are there? Right, obviously, right. And I'm wondering when, you know, why do, why does that have to happen? It doesn't have to happen. It happens because of a misunderstanding of the whole concept of power. People, in that sense, that force anything on someone else, are actually exhibiting a belief in their lack of empowerment. I think I was wearing an owl, like a little pen of an owl. Yeah. Oh, that's it. That's the Bilderberg thing. Yeah, the Bilderberg, they're connected with the symbol of the owl. There you go. You see, you have your synchronicities. Right. And I was wearing that on my shirt, and there was a guy on the Greyhound bus, and he said he was an FBI agent. He said he was a field agent, he used to be, with the FBI. Oh, right. And he did the two, you know how people do the two fingers, looks like a rock and roll sign? We understand what you mean. Okay, I think he was doing that towards me when he saw that pin. Am I accurate in that? He recognized its significance, yes. But it's also a symbol that people often associate with the idea of a screen memory from the Grays. The Grays? Yes. Many times when people have experiences with the Grays, they are given a screen memory to cover up the actual experience. And often the screen memory is of an owl.
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I think he was doing that towards me when he saw that pin. Am I accurate in that? He recognized its significance, yes. But it's also a symbol that people often associate with the idea of a screen memory from the Grays. The Grays? Yes. Many times when people have experiences with the Grays, they are given a screen memory to cover up the actual experience. And often the screen memory is of an owl. Do remember you are riding on a gray hound. Wow. Wow. Wow. Oh. Okay. So he recognized that. I mean, he recognized some... In his own context, yes. And when I started asking him, I asked him about a guy, okay, the guy named Bruce Davis, who was said to have been responsible for an incident that happened involving somebody named the Zodiac in the 60s? Man, what about it? I was questioning him about it, and he seemed that he knew exactly I was talking about, but he was avoiding and answering the questions. Yes, well, some of that information is not something that many people wish to discuss. Right. Or are not allowed to. Right. So, I'm wondering how this information can benefit, like if I see things about this stuff, and I know about how... By staying in a positive state, you will understand whether it is appropriate to apply the information in your life or whether it is something that simply helps you move in a different direction. Right. But you have to stay in the positive state to understand how it might be applicable or not. Okay. You have to develop the discernment to be able to tell the difference. And the easiest way to do that is to stay in the positive state of the being that you truly wish to be. Then it will be easy to understand whether or not it is relevant to your life and you can apply it or whether it is not relevant to your life and you don't apply it. Right, because I go through phases of learning things. Of course. And when I do learn a set of things, I'll use those those. things to explore my life. Of course. And then, okay. So just do that from a positive state so that you can begin to tell the difference as to what needs to be applied and what doesn't. Right. Right. Yeah, that thing about the greyhound, writing the greyhound and wearing the owl. Was I wearing it because of that? I mean, I... You are setting up your own synchronicities to give you the reflections that you need. Right. It's all an orchestration. And sometimes the synchronicities that you do that you create will reveal the orchestration that you're co-creating with others. It's up to you to decide what you wish to do with that and how you wish to apply it in your life. And not just get caught up in all the mystery of it. Right.
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You are setting up your own synchronicities to give you the reflections that you need. Right. It's all an orchestration. And sometimes the synchronicities that you do that you create will reveal the orchestration that you're co-creating with others. It's up to you to decide what you wish to do with that and how you wish to apply it in your life. And not just get caught up in all the mystery of it. Right. Just take it for whatever reflection it is and apply it in whatever way seems positively appropriate. Okay. And the owl upside down, is it like a representation of the pineal then? Not upside down, it's not. Okay. Although we understand how many people on your planet might think that. Because it talks about the idea of inverting from one reality to another. But that's not really the meaning of the symbol upside down. The owl, however, by itself can, to some degree be representative of the interdimensional connection that is held along or amplified by the pineal gland. I wore that same owl pin last night. Yes. Out to a comedy show. All right. I was wondering, did anybody? Was there any people who... A few people noticed. Can you share with how they possibly perceived that... It's not relevant to you. Otherwise, you would have perceived it yourself. Okay. Don't ask for things outside this sphere of relevance. Okay. Focus on what is relevant for you. You don't need to know everything. And sometimes you don't want to know everything, because it will get in the way of your natural orchestration, to stop and always examine and need to know what every little thing means. Don't be so detail-oriented, otherwise you'll slow yourself down. More to just go with the flow of stuff? A bit more. Whatever details you need to know will, in a sense, come to your attention. The ones that don't, you don't need to know right now. So the outbreak of the owl doesn't even serve me. I mean, I don't... It serves you in the sense that you created an orchestration and a synchronicity and you can apply whatever information to whatever degree came up in your... up in your consciousness with that. But don't strain yourself by digging too deeply beyond what is immediately relevant and obvious. Okay. You don't necessarily need to know the rest because the rest of it, while it may have relevance for others, isn't necessarily relevant for you. In a sense, it's almost too heavy to worry about all these little things. Exactly. Because you're trying to take on an understanding of how the same symbol is relevant to everyone else, and it has nothing to do with your life, how it's relevant to someone else necessarily. That seems to be with... I've been doing my whole life, just worrying about what everybody else's things are doing. Exactly. Focus on yourself. It seems difficult. Because you're making it difficult. Right, right.
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worry about all these little things. Exactly. Because you're trying to take on an understanding of how the same symbol is relevant to everyone else, and it has nothing to do with your life, how it's relevant to someone else necessarily. That seems to be with... I've been doing my whole life, just worrying about what everybody else's things are doing. Exactly. Focus on yourself. It seems difficult. Because you're making it difficult. Right, right. Because you are defining it as somehow necessary for you to understand who you are, and it isn't necessary. So if you, can you read my energy and tell me if I just relaxed and not did any of that anymore, would things work out much better? Yes, they would. Okay. That just goes without saying, because that's the way things work. I'm going to do that from now on. from now on. We'll thank you. Will I ever see you in some point? It is unknown whether you will perceive us directly or simply another member of our society. And that's all based on my vibration? Yes. There's a probability, but we can't necessarily say how high the probability is at this particular moment, because you are not necessarily the person yet vibrational with whom the probability would be high that we would meet. So by following my excitement in that... You change the probabilities. But again, we cannot necessarily tell at this particular moment whether the probability would be for us specifically or simply another member of our society. Okay. Or perhaps even another hybrid race altogether, such as the Yaya. Right. I was in Ridgecrest, California. Oh, right. And I met this woman over the internet and I went and lived with her in Ridgecrest. Yes. And I was wondering... Did I have aid and assistance in that? Was that an orchestration? You always have some kind of guidance, but remember, a lot of the guidance is coming from yourself. A lot of the orchestration is done by yourself. Right. Guides will assist, but that's all they will do. They will assist. They're not going to do it for you. Okay. It seems as like I'm not having as much fun with the simple... Like, I go through my day, and it seems as, you know... Because, you know... You can choose to have as much fun as you wish. It all comes down to how you choose to look at things, how you choose to define things, how you choose to relate to things. I can make it funer than what I... Absolutely. Watch your definitions. It may only be your definitions that are damping down the fun quotient that could be there. Like if I choose to worry, that's a choice. I don't have. Of course. Okay. And you don't have to. Okay. You can observe. recognize. Right. You can assess. You don't have to worry. Okay. That's a choice. Then if worrying is not fun, don't do it.
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can make it funer than what I... Absolutely. Watch your definitions. It may only be your definitions that are damping down the fun quotient that could be there. Like if I choose to worry, that's a choice. I don't have. Of course. Okay. And you don't have to. Okay. You can observe. recognize. Right. You can assess. You don't have to worry. Okay. That's a choice. Then if worrying is not fun, don't do it. It doesn't serve you. Okay. Do what serves you. Then you'll experience more fun. It goes to the territory. The, um, on the moon, are there, uh, are humans going to move from here to the moon? Eventually. Eventually. That doesn't mean there won't be any on the Earth. Right. But there will be bases on the moon. Are there any now? There are extraterrestrial bases on the moon, which a few humans have visited. Right. So when they said, like, the eagle has landed. Yes. What exactly do they mean by that? That was a catchphrase from the idea of your initial moon landings, where the craft was called the eagle. I thought like they never landed on the moon. never landed on the moon. Of course they have landed on the moon. Of the official... Yes, you've landed on the moon. Okay. The eagle, for me, has always, I always thought it was a sun symbol. The idea may mean different things in different cultures, but nevertheless, the craft itself was simply referred to as the eagle. The eagle has landed. There's nothing mysterious about the phrase. Right. So for the rest of my life, all I have to do is just, you know, when they say follow your excitement, that's all I really need to do. Act on your highest excitement. Don't forget the whole formula. Act on your highest excitement to the best of your ability. Take it as far as you can until you can take it no further. With zero expectation, assumption, or insistence on the outcome. And that seems to be. what I need to work on the most is having no expectations. If you understand that having the assumption is what actually limits your ability to experience an even greater outcome than you can imagine, then you'll stop doing it. It's only the ego's insistence that it knows what's the best possible thing for it that continues to allow it to insist on specific outcomes when in fact if it understands that it's actually limiting its choices of outcomes. its choices of outcomes by insisting on a particular one, then it'll stop doing that. Okay. So you have to have that understanding. And then you'll simply stop. If you don't stop doing that, you don't understand it. Right. And I feel like before my life I had different types of, I would allow myself to have different types of personality type of views. Yes. And now I'm more like into one person now.
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outcomes. its choices of outcomes by insisting on a particular one, then it'll stop doing that. Okay. So you have to have that understanding. And then you'll simply stop. If you don't stop doing that, you don't understand it. Right. And I feel like before my life I had different types of, I would allow myself to have different types of personality type of views. Yes. And now I'm more like into one person now. I've become like a whole... This is what integration is all about. You still have. all the possibilities of the different views, but they're all coordinated and orchestrated to the idea of an overview from one particular perspective that is now more representative of who you prefer to be vibrational. So maybe the drinking thing was something to put back, I put it back to myself to decide, what will my relationship with this be for the rest of my life here? Yes. And again, you will simply find that the more you are your natural self, then you will automatically know what it is you need, and don't need, and your behavior will simply go in alignment with that. Right. You will simply not have the urge to do things that are not in the vibrational alignment with who you prefer to be anymore. Right. Or if you do have, in any way, shape, or form any kind of an attraction to it, you will only do it in a way that is truly beneficial and not in a way that is not. It's that simple. Okay. Okay. Okay. The word Holly, would. It is. I had heard that it came from the idea that the Druids used to have a holly tree. The ancient Druids did. It does have some, pardon the pun, roots back to that idea. Are they... But it also comes from the idea that a particular person simply had a connection to the idea of hollies and thus then suggested it as a name. Right. So even though it was not a direct, though it was not a direct connection, it was an indirect connection because that person that suggested the name did have some cross connections to lives in that time. It's just why they had an affinity for it, even though they may not necessarily have even consciously known that when they suggested the name. Right. So I was doing some research about his guy named Michael. He had a website about Ireland and the ancient Druids and all this stuff. But I was wondering that the Druids in Ireland, is that kind of... connected to Atlantis? Yes, but remotely. Okay. They have become something quite different than the Atlantean priests by the time you knew them as Druids. They had forgotten quite a lot of the information that was understood in Atlantean times. But they were an offshoot, a remnant, so to speak.
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a website about Ireland and the ancient Druids and all this stuff. But I was wondering that the Druids in Ireland, is that kind of... connected to Atlantis? Yes, but remotely. Okay. They have become something quite different than the Atlantean priests by the time you knew them as Druids. They had forgotten quite a lot of the information that was understood in Atlantean times. But they were an offshoot, a remnant, so to speak. Are they connected to the what I know as the High Illies, the Priesthood of the Illies, the Ill, I-L? There is a remote connection. Okay. So they're all gone now, though? Pretty much. There are a few around that still have some cross-connection to this idea and exhibit some similar vibrations to that concept, but in its original form, it doesn't really exist much in your world at this time. Though to some degree it might come back more in its purer form for some individuals, closer to what was understood in Atlantean times, at its height. Right. I heard you say, So I heard you say one time there were people who could live to be, there's people here who, one person who was at least a thousand years old? Yes. Have I ever met anybody who was in hundreds of years? No. You have not. Okay. Are some of those people in regular civilization, a few of them? What do you mean by regular? Oh, just, you know, just like Los Angeles, walking around Los Angeles or something like that? There have been a few that have some times walk through the streets of some larger cities, but that's not where they normally reside. Right. They usually live in, like, jungles? Not always, no. Okay. It just depends. Most of them belong to what you would refer to as indigenous societies. Right. A few don't, though. I'm just fascinated with, like, the idea of people being interdimensional or... Well, all people are interdimensional in some way, shape, or form. Well, the ones that are really different from what I'm used to. The ones that know it and know how to use it. Yeah, yeah. I seem to be very interested. All right. Well, again, just got on about the business of living your life to the fullest that you possibly can and the vibration that represents your true self. And if there is some reason for you to encounter one of these people, that's the most likely way to do it. Okay. How much time do we have? I'm not biting into your time, I want it? No, you're never biting into my time, but it isn't about the idea of that. It's about the idea of that. It's about the idea of timing and what you have. And in terms of its translation into a time frame, the time frame is almost up. Okay. All right. So, anything else? Yeah.
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likely way to do it. Okay. How much time do we have? I'm not biting into your time, I want it? No, you're never biting into my time, but it isn't about the idea of that. It's about the idea of that. It's about the idea of timing and what you have. And in terms of its translation into a time frame, the time frame is almost up. Okay. All right. So, anything else? Yeah. Okay, so, you've already told me very much about what would be beneficial to me to me to folks out of the rest of my life? Our strongest suggestion is always to align with your highest excitement because that's your body's translation of the vibratory energy that represents your true self. So that makes the most sense. And I feel like I made a victory here because I feel like I came to a conclusion that I no longer have to, like, hold on to studying or hold on to experiences that possibly could be looked at as being fear-based, that all I have to do is just stay within what I want to do, and that's all I need. Yes. That's all that. Yes. It's that simple. Well, I'd be able to, um, if I, okay. So if I download the Essatani symbol or focus on it, will I be able to connect to your civilization to pick up more information later on in my life? Most likely. Okay. Does that help you? Yes, that does. No, right. Do you have what you need to move forward in your life and the way that you prefer to have now then? Yes. All right. Well, then we will thank you for the co-creation of this interaction. And we will bid you an exciting, creative. Good day. Thank you very much. You are very welcome. Good day. Good day. That was great. Yeah, that was great. Oh. Good.