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When you meet them, you may not like them. Or you may, it's up to you. Erica! Yeah. Did that answer? Yes. Thank you very much. There will be that we perceive the idea. Tomorrow being the day of the halfway mark of your month of April, in what you call the second half, more acceleration, and in this way more regular appearances. appearances by your friend. You're you? Yes. Oh, dear. Yes. Not the night, though, huh? No. It is before the halfway mark. I guess you have to show tomorrow. There will be first opportunity, no guarantee, in what you call Wednesday night of your time, and then also next. So, next Monday night of your time, for the communication in that way that will represent the acceleration of your energy and pay attention. The idea of allowing for that communication bridge to come through will be directly proportional to the degree you are willing to act as the beings you know yourselves to be. Okay. Guys. In a sense, you may view it as my own higher self. Tis consciousness from that civilization you would call the star serious. You follow me. That's higher stuff, not teach yourself? Can be the same thing. But you channeled your higher self once. That was a different experience. It was a different aspect of the whole idea. It was the crystalline consciousness. You may refer to it as a future selling you wish. Understand that from its point of view. It is all quite arbitrary. No. No. Why, um, is there a reason? why it's deciding to channel through you rather than just you channel through us? In this way, what you are always experiencing, you will experience perhaps in that way, as simply chipop through the physiological channel of Darrell. In the same way you experience my consciousness. But recognize it is always coming through me in that sense because of the terminology that you have made it to be my future self and myself being. and myself being Darrell's future self, there will always be the manifestation of the third identity that you will perceive in that way on all the different levels simultaneously and then the creation of the construction of the fourth identity, inwardly, and also the fifth manifestation, the one you create, for yourselves to experience. Did you get that? Is that? Well, wait a minute, wait a wait. Could you repeat that, please? Simply that there is. Would you like to explain it? He's saying it's like, Chappas has to come through him, first of all, because of the energy exchange. And then you understand the idea about when he comes through Daryl and they make a third personality. So that made, the fourth personality is that interaction. What's the fifth? Our creation, our perception of that personality. Guys. The fourth personality. is the one that is experienced in a sense inwardly by the channel. Right, exactly.
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it? He's saying it's like, Chappas has to come through him, first of all, because of the energy exchange. And then you understand the idea about when he comes through Daryl and they make a third personality. So that made, the fourth personality is that interaction. What's the fifth? Our creation, our perception of that personality. Guys. The fourth personality. is the one that is experienced in a sense inwardly by the channel. Right, exactly. The fifth is the one you choose to create of the third identity. No. No. No. Go ahead. Okay. You said that you've made a connection with Daryl, that that being your only past life on Earth, even though Daryl has his own past life. Now, is Japapap, does he have a connection with Daryl, or is there no connection except you then in that way, is that what you're saying? That Daryl is not one of Shippa's past life. It is not connected in exactly the same way, no. So it would be the higher self, like when I think I'm talking to my higher self, when I'm asking myself questions, it's kind of like more, I guess in a way, the over picture of your complete self? In a sense. Rather than at a specific way, that is what was referred to as the future self, which is a specific way. version of the idea of the higher self. So are you conscious of what this higher self is saying to us while it's coming out? Oh, yes. Do you interact both you, too? I mean, can you change and then you start talking and then Jap start talking? Yes. Now, also understand in that way that there are many dimensions of the experience going on covalued. on quote on quote on my level as well at the same time and for me there is also the idea of the different variations of the interactions of the interactions that creates a whole scenario one of which one aspect of which is what you are experiencing as your entire scenario did that come through all right my inward experience, what we have described as the fourth identity, the one that occurs inside the channel, you follow me? That total experience within me is what is my interaction with you to me. The entire interaction that you perceive to be taking place between us is that one inward is that one inward. inward bubble of experience for me while I am in communication with my future self. Now, understand that what that means is the interaction that is channeling inward to the physical channel, Darrell, is penetrating into another dimension of experience and communicating with other entities as well. In other words, as a consciousness, Darrell is also speaking through someone somewhere else. As I am speaking through him to you, as Chipop is speaking through me to us.
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of experience for me while I am in communication with my future self. Now, understand that what that means is the interaction that is channeling inward to the physical channel, Darrell, is penetrating into another dimension of experience and communicating with other entities as well. In other words, as a consciousness, Darrell is also speaking through someone somewhere else. As I am speaking through him to you, as Chipop is speaking through me to us. Because the fourth identity inward is the one that penetrates through the doorway within each of us, so to speak, not in a derogatory manner, to the next level that requires that type of interaction in their own terms. So for each and every one of us that is in that way the channel, the inward experience also becomes the outward experience for another group of entities in some other dimension of experience. Would Darrell be channeling to the Bernard Star? Oh, very good. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Well, I... Thank you. There and other places. Can someone be channeling such as myself in other places without being aware of it? Yes. Yes. Is they aware of it? We just told him. Now, in the idea of the dream reality, yes, you are all aware of it. Now, it is a new understanding the way the levels interact, the way the doorways interpenetrate each other. And it is one more understanding of the multi-dimensional aspect of each and every one of you. For understand, this is partly, partly an analogy for why it has been said, said that what you perceive to be stars are manifestations of other levels of other levels of consciousness, leaking, so to speak, into your reality. Your thoughts, your emotions, and your consciousness in that way to other entities, in a sense, can also be their stars. Different way of perceiving energy. Yes. Is astral projection to the idea of channeling as far as you could tell yourself somewhere else? Not by your definitions. In this way, it is mostly the idea of the projection of your consciousness without relationship to what you call your physiological form in time and space. It is what seems to be the personality you consider yourself to be existing without your body, but perceiving in the same manner, so to speak, that you would perceive if you were physically present at the location, your senses now occupy. You follow me. When, when, when Chupap comes through you and then down through Daryl, is that interaction because you're connected to Chupop? Or is that interaction? interaction? Yes. Because simply because it's serious energy and because it's... Well, both. My particular manifestation of my cognizance is connected to the idea of the particular manifestation of Chappal. I am making a definition in the same way to some degree that you make your definitions. And I am making them for you in those terms so that you understand it as an identity. Mm-hmm.
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because you're connected to Chupop? Or is that interaction? interaction? Yes. Because simply because it's serious energy and because it's... Well, both. My particular manifestation of my cognizance is connected to the idea of the particular manifestation of Chappal. I am making a definition in the same way to some degree that you make your definitions. And I am making them for you in those terms so that you understand it as an identity. Mm-hmm. Well, I guess I'm wondering then it's not every, just because Pop to Pop's connected with Syrius that he needs a go-between. Can you understand what you're saying? Oh, there is no need for the go-between in that way, but that is what serves the idea I have of myself and the idea the channel has of himself and the idea you all have of yourselves. Understand there is direct communication as well many times, although it is not perceived many times as communication, but it is perceived as your imagination. imagination as visions, as emotions, as attitudes. You follow me? Who decides when Jap comes through that told it to Jap or that... It is up to the idea of the combined timing of the interaction all of us together, including you. For when it best serves you. Do you think stars are consciousness is coming through from other levels to us to us? other levels to us? Everything is consciousness. There is a physiological, in your terms, reason for the existence of a star that you do not perceive to be connected to consciousness, but it is also a reflection of different levels of consciousness penetrating into your system. There are consciousnesses in that way attached to those phenomena. You follow me? Yes. Did we at one time on this planet know that and there's how the system of astrology started that we think that the stars... It is one of the aspects that makes that connection in an archetypal manner. Yes. Very good. Yes. You're talking about, I don't talk about feelings and attitude. I was wondering about something that occurred to me a couple of days ago. Do we generate thoughts or are we processing vibrations of that? Thoughts are vibration in physiological electromagnetic. electromagnetic terms. They are the vibrations that are reflections of patterns of consciousness in physical terms. So we're not creating it? Yes, you are. We're choosing them or create? What is the difference? Well, I... You are the creator. As you choose, so you create. You have created the idea of a medium, the electromagnetic atmosphere in which a consciousness can have a a model of itself represented by what you call a thought. It is a model. A thought is a model for consciousness in physical terms. The thing we become sympathetic to, it's already, and it's already a part of all that is. We just become sympathetic to that vibration and then appreciate it. It is not that the vibration exists without you.
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of a medium, the electromagnetic atmosphere in which a consciousness can have a a model of itself represented by what you call a thought. It is a model. A thought is a model for consciousness in physical terms. The thing we become sympathetic to, it's already, and it's already a part of all that is. We just become sympathetic to that vibration and then appreciate it. It is not that the vibration exists without you. You create it, but because you think you do not, then you feel you have to become sympathetic. you have to become sympathetic with it as a reflection. But understand you create the vibration to begin with, and if you do not recognize that you created it to begin with, then in order to associate with it, you might see it as an echo bouncing back to you outside so that your senses can pick it up and develop a sympathy with it. Is that what we're all doing in this room right now? Yes. Is it a creation or as much as an acceptance or a tuning into? Right. It's just everything's existing at once. We're not creating. We're not adding anything to it. We're just perceiving other parts of it as a needle on a record. But the perception is the creation. Right. I understand. Point of view is a creation. Right. Right. And we're also the event. Nice. But it's not an addition. It's the creation, but we're not, it's not an addition. It's just a perception of something, which is... Isn't that what you've said? No. Yes, it is not so much an addition as you mean it. And yet, because each and every one of you is unique, the way you are perceiving in this now moment is a new now moment. And creating there to be a new now moment, which in a sense can be looked at as an addition, but paradoxically, the total volume of all that is does not change. Right, got. Thank you. For sure. Is there an analogy physiologically to the sympathetic nervous system and what we're talking about? What you're like? Yes, there is. Although we will find that as we are scanning, the majority of the terminology necessary to describe that to you does not exist within the physical channel's memory. However, if I were to take what you just said and look up what I know about the system You can find the connection. Yes. It does exist. You're sure? Yes. You told me the past to have exciting dreams. And a couple of nights ago, I had a reoccurring dream three times of one night. All right. And it had to do with something with, like a television transmission signal, like a microwave or something like that. All right. And that's about the only I remember. about the three dreams. Can you... That is the only thing you remember? Well, there was other people around, but that's the important part.
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to have exciting dreams. And a couple of nights ago, I had a reoccurring dream three times of one night. All right. And it had to do with something with, like a television transmission signal, like a microwave or something like that. All right. And that's about the only I remember. about the three dreams. Can you... That is the only thing you remember? Well, there was other people around, but that's the important part. Important part? Part, part, important part. The dream is a total thing. What else was there besides the people? Anything about them that you care to remember in particular? Anything else besides them you care to share? It had to share. to do with communications, I believe. All right. What else? Determination? All right. Is that a question? Yes, I'm not sure. Well, make it a statement and see how it feels. It feels good. All right. What else? No. While you are pondering that idea, did you have a question? Would you care to share about? I will, and I don't know if there's any correlation. You don't have to know it. Share. Just a few nice ago, I dreamed that I was in a boat. Oh, right? And I was traveling with some other people, and at some point in time, I'd reached a point that was as far as I could go, I could go consciously and at that point I and the other people on the boat were blindfolded and taken further. All right. Air lifted out of the water on the boat and transported to another body of water. All right. Stop right there. Hold your place. Has anything else come up for you? There's a lot of, I can't put into words, a lot of feelings there, but there's nothing that I can't put into words, a lot of feelings there, but there's nothing that I can't nothing that I could really describe. Then allow yourself to relax, close your eyes, and allow the feelings to create pictures now. Understand, a dream is an ongoing process. It is going on right now. What other images do you create now? Now? With the feelings that you have? What? comes. Do not think about it. Do not analyze. Say it. As you see it. Well. Nothing's true. Can you describe the feeling? No. All right. Pay attention. Continue. Okay. Once we were... Once we were, our boat was erected to another body of water. We were allowed to wander around on the beach. Yes. I can remember looking into the water. Yes. A very light blue-green. Yes. It was like looking into a crystal. Yes. I also remember looking out to sea because it seemed to be an island. I could only see a certain distance and then there was cloud banks as far as it went. All right. Right. I felt as if I was, that things were obscured, that I was not allowed to see beyond that. All right.
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remember looking into the water. Yes. A very light blue-green. Yes. It was like looking into a crystal. Yes. I also remember looking out to sea because it seemed to be an island. I could only see a certain distance and then there was cloud banks as far as it went. All right. Right. I felt as if I was, that things were obscured, that I was not allowed to see beyond that. All right. There was definitely limitations there. Then what? There was four people on the boat to begin with. And then there was 27. And the 27 seemed to be an important number for some reason. And there was a great deal of discussion on who was playing. on who was going to be in charge of this group of people who is going to be in charge of making rules and getting the food and taking care of everything. Oh, I stop right there. Have you been enjoying her story? It was most beautiful. Did you have pictures and or feelings that went along with it while you were listening? I was really more wrapped up in what she was saying then. Wrapped up? Well, enjoying the whole story. So what was your feeling? Hmm. All right. What do you make of her story? It has to do with communication? Is that what came to you? Is that what came to you? I guess it's more of a question mark, I don't. Continue. In what way? Might it, I'll play along with you, might it have to do with communication, in what way? How do you wish to communicate with the world? In what way do you wish to share the ideas of yourself? How? I believe that is a word in your language. Well, verbally. Verbaly! All right. What? What? Will you share? Verbly. How to survive? Survive? How to survive? How to survive? How to survive? You are surviving? You are surviving just fine. Well, not necessarily how to survive, but how to feed and what to do. Are you sure this is something you want to do? Well, I'm lost right now, to be honest with me. All right. Very good. Are you sure that this is something you want to do? Oh, yes. You're sure. Definitely. All right. How do you know you are definitely sure? What is the feeling that tells you? You are definitely sure. Or do you have a picture of yourself doing this? That seems so real you just simply take it for a great just simply take it for granted that that is what you are going to be doing. How do you know it is? definitely sure. I don't know how to answer it. You can say I just know. Go ahead. I just know. Oh, thank you. Now, hold on. Continue. There's not a lot more to the dream as far as as pictures. All right. I had the feelings connected with it. All right.
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a great just simply take it for granted that that is what you are going to be doing. How do you know it is? definitely sure. I don't know how to answer it. You can say I just know. Go ahead. I just know. Oh, thank you. Now, hold on. Continue. There's not a lot more to the dream as far as as pictures. All right. I had the feelings connected with it. All right. What type? I had the feeling that my immediate environment all around me was extremely clear, looking the water was clear, looking at sea was clear. There were also, around this bubble of clearness was obscurities that I could not see any further. All right. Now, may I ask you the same question? How do you wish to share, to communicate? Telepathically. graphically. In symbols, in ideas, the whole concepts rather than to check down in the words. Oh, I see. All right. All right. You have the idea of an individual out. in this sense has created a dream based upon the one side of polarity of the whole concept and an individual on the other side of the polarity in that way of the limitation of the viewpoint and yet And yet, at the same time, the one expressing the ability of the whole concept, having the very specifically detailed knowledge of the dream, and the one expressing the supposed limitation in that way, having simply a very sketchy concept of the dream. And so in this way, recognizing that, simply that both of you are within yourselves polarities that are offering you the opportunity to know that as you choose to function from your knowingness, you are going to be utilizing automatically whatever methodologies are going to be right to represent the you you have chosen to be. And in this way, simply know that if there is confusion within the so-called community, communication to yourself within your dream. It does not have to be judged to be a lack of communication, a lack of understanding, but simply a way compared to your physical life that might be new for you, unexpected for you. And so you cannot find the words in your case, in that sense. And in your case, because you wish it to be concept, you find that you have an abundance of ability to describe in words the entire scenario and deal with all the specifics that you feel to be in that way obfuscating, recognize simply that together, if you are willing to share to share some identification back and forth, you can spark within each other images and visions that you have up to this point not allowed you can spark within each other images and vision that you have up to this point not allowed yourself to be able to think you can create within yourselves.
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the specifics that you feel to be in that way obfuscating, recognize simply that together, if you are willing to share to share some identification back and forth, you can spark within each other images and visions that you have up to this point not allowed you can spark within each other images and vision that you have up to this point not allowed yourself to be able to think you can create within yourselves. Because in that way, you can show each other that both of you contain both sides of the polarity by reflecting as seeming individuals each side of the same polarity. Is any of this getting through at all? We realize it is in your terms rather esoteric. But in this way, there are within In this particular dream manifestation, the opportunities to recognize that you are in communication with yourselves as you need to be, and what is occurring here is the beginning of a willingness to recognize that you are not isolated in your ability to externalize this communication and find from each other the aspects you individually separately need to to have reflected to you to complete the dream you can be as a living conscious physical being. You are stopping yourself short in that way from understanding the true connection to your dream so that you can find the connection in the dream that is part of your physical life. If you are willing to identify the idea you have shared and see what identification that makes in someone else. so that you can begin to act as service to each other physically showing yourselves that will allow you to see the completion of the polarity within yourself already. Not that you need the other individual to be complete, but that another individual in your society has the reflection that can allow you to know you are complete and can be consciously in communication with the higher self, the dream reality that will allow you to understand the complete of the communication of your physical self with respect to your dream self on both ends of the polarity you are expressing. Is that getting through? Yes. I'd like to add to this dream experience. All right. When Dee, is that any, when Dee said that there were 27 people in the boat, I got a rush of adrenaline and a voice said, and a voice said count the people in this room. And yes, there are 27 people not including D. All right. I'd also like to say that the following, the following that I was discussing this dream, oh, I had not started discussing a dream yet.
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experience. All right. When Dee, is that any, when Dee said that there were 27 people in the boat, I got a rush of adrenaline and a voice said, and a voice said count the people in this room. And yes, there are 27 people not including D. All right. I'd also like to say that the following, the following that I was discussing this dream, oh, I had not started discussing a dream yet. A friend of mine that I was with Don was telling the guy reading he had had had, in which the channel had told him about 27 people that were part of the previous life of his, but he was, I guess there were people under him and he was in charge of, and when he said that number, I reacted and said, oh, you know, that number came up in my dream. Is there some significance to that number? Obviously. One moment. Are you feeling any connection at all, to the idea of that 27 or the idea of that 27 or the people that you were surrounded with in your dream. Understand, stop looking for it in the past and see if your imagination tells you anything in the present. What does it mean? What does it mean to you now? Now, not making the connection to what you think it is supposed to mean relative to the dream you had. What does it mean to you right now? 27. When I say 27, what do you get? Don't think about it. Say the first thing that comes to your mind. 27. This is my birthday. Thank you. Now, you have something else to say. We have something else to say. We were talking about that as you were just. Oh, really? Do share. I was discussing the date of the unborn child that she was expecting, and I had said to her I thought it would be maybe a birthday. And then I said, if not the 27, possibly the 9th. All right. It seems to me, at any rate, that the two of you have some things to talk about. See if you can be reflections for each other to allow both of you to both of you to recognize the polarity that exists within each of you that can be blended into a knowing communication between your physical and your dream realities. Dale. Yes. Thank you. For your synchronicity and your participation in the dream. Thank you. That was a very enjoyable piece of social and human mind. Is that correct? This is everyone? Thank you.
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you can be reflections for each other to allow both of you to both of you to recognize the polarity that exists within each of you that can be blended into a knowing communication between your physical and your dream realities. Dale. Yes. Thank you. For your synchronicity and your participation in the dream. Thank you. That was a very enjoyable piece of social and human mind. Is that correct? This is everyone? Thank you. In this way, recognize that this idea And the reason, in a sense, to a degree, it seemed to perhaps become a little more complex than usual is simply because what we were doing, in a sense, for the first time, was beginning to describe the structures that we perceive as we share with you in our perception of, with your willingness, forming and moving into place the social engineering aspects. Okay. Yes. When you chose Dee, were you picking something up because I know Dee and I know she is about the most vivid dreamer I've ever experienced in my aeronical training? I'm wondering why do you... In this way, again, to depict the idea of the engineering that takes place, we simply find that in allowing ourselves to act in and of the engineering that takes place, we simply find that in allowing ourselves to act in and of the moment and trust completely. the idea we simply find ourselves moved to that interaction as it automatically to us feels like there is a connection. Whether we immediately understand what that connection is or not is not necessary. That is the idea of trust. I guess trusting our interest. Yes, completely. And isn't it true that as we're all connected, you could do that you could do the same thing again right now? again right now, would anybody know that it will just come out all connected? As long as you're not watching for it. That expectation is what in your terms, let us say, throws the wrench into the spontaneity. I mean, if we aren't watching for it as we're creating, but if I'm watching for it as you're doing. In this way, you may perceive the idea, but also I'm watching for it as you're creating. In this way, you may perceive the idea, but also, understand that as you allow yourself to co-create an understanding in that way, then recognize that you will also simultaneously surround yourself with the same degree of synchronicity. So, be prepared. Be prepared for ecstasy. Yes, quickly. The first half of the show tonight. I have. I started to go into a trance feeling and felt a lot of pressure in my heart chakra. And it felt like if I let myself, ego self, get out of the way, I would have channeled something. I wanted to know if that would be, I blocked it or kept it from... We can assist you in any interaction in that way.
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ecstasy. Yes, quickly. The first half of the show tonight. I have. I started to go into a trance feeling and felt a lot of pressure in my heart chakra. And it felt like if I let myself, ego self, get out of the way, I would have channeled something. I wanted to know if that would be, I blocked it or kept it from... We can assist you in any interaction in that way. Feel free to speak up in that sense, allowing yourself to know that in your terms it is. it is something that would be an enjoyable exchange and we will assist in allowing you to recognize that you can become familiar with that portion of your consciousness. Of course. It is a part of allowing yourself to be the idea. Quickly. Yes. I just came across a term this week that I like a lot called Imaginaria. All right. I thought it was connected to a social engineer. social engineering as you were explaining on Wednesday night. In a sense, almost directly, Imagineering is how you create your physical reality. Thank you. I'd like to share an earth joke with you. Oh, right. You can take it home to your friends. If it translates. Okay. Where do Es Ensanians keep their armies in their sleeves? Oh. Did it translate? It doesn't translate. It's a language. Thank you. I don't know. Ha ha ha ha ha. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Oh. Do you feel? You feel that you, all of you, each and every one of you, can you feel that you have have been and done many, many different things. Can you know that all of the connections that you make, including in what you construct to be the idea the idea of your humor, allow, allow you the opportunity in centering within that humor to recognize the symbology that allows you in that moment the reflection the tapping into the experience, the life, the lives, the situations that go back in your terms for thousands upon thousands of your years. Can you feel the wealth of experience, of knowledge, of understanding, of wisdom, of laughter, of life? As you allow yourselves to form a bridge between yourself to form a bridge between yourselves and other consciousness, consciousness and your own expanded consciousness within your love of life and laughter. Understand you have the foundation, the foundation and the foundation and the support of all that you have to allow you to know that it is all right to begin to make light of the idea of love, of life, and that your essence, by nature, by nature, is the ecstasy of knowing, the ecstasy of sharing, of centering, of being, your willingness to begin, your willingness to begin, your willingness to be equal, and share with us, and share with us, and share with us in your terms your loving friendship is a gift. Is a gift to us.
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is all right to begin to make light of the idea of love, of life, and that your essence, by nature, by nature, is the ecstasy of knowing, the ecstasy of sharing, of centering, of being, your willingness to begin, your willingness to begin, your willingness to be equal, and share with us, and share with us, and share with us in your terms your loving friendship is a gift. Is a gift to us. For which we will find no words in any words in any language, except in that we will find no words in any language, except in that, except in that which we share with you as our deepest and most sincere, unconditional, unconditional love, to each and every one of you individually and collectively. We love you, we thank you, and together, and together, we thank you, and together, we are the are the sharing that continues forever in the eternal now. We bid you a fond and loving good night. I'm going to go. Great. Great. Thank you. You're welcome. He told me something. He told me something. Yeah. communicated something to you. You may not. Well, all I ever get are images and feelings and pictures, so I wouldn't necessarily know when one of them stood out as a specific reference. Something about where you go when you're not here. Something about you challenge to other civilization? Gerald. You, Darryl, not. The Barnard stuff. As what you're doing here. The only thing that... Yeah. That's manifesting there in the same thing. Okay, well the only thing I can get as an impression of what you're talking about, the image that comes back when you say that, is like, the image I remember is like seeing like four blue spheres, each one a little higher than the next, and like some sort of like a silver liquid pouring out of the top of the beach all the way down. That's really what he said. And he said that fourth, whatever you're called, the fourth identity. how the fourth identity was that. Was it how you were getting it? It's on the tape. What you're describing is very close to exactly what you're saying. Okay. Very good, Carol.